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did he/she exist forever? why did that god take so long to invent a world to destroy? infinite is a long time! and when was your god created?

2006-09-22 15:58:43 · 14 answers · asked by bill loomer 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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The uncreated creator argument is nonsense of course and commits the logical fallacy of special pleading by insisting that all things must be created except the deity who created, making an exception for a god that theists will not make for the Universe because of their innate preference for a being with an anthropomorphic nature whom they can use as a substitute parent.

Why, other than personal preference for the mere assertion of a creating deity? If the existence of something so complex as a deity without a creator is possible, then the existence of a Universe less complex and entirely physical should be possible in like manner and theists have no evidence or proof that this isn't the case. They only have the mythology they have embraced and they make mere assertions, which as with all mere assertions and insupportable claims of special revelation, and indeed all such claims are insupportable claims, may be rightly ignored as irrelevant to living.

2006-09-22 16:16:54 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

this is like asking "What does blue smell like?" Blue is not in the category of things that have odor, so the question itself is flawed. In the same way, God is not in the category of things that are created, or come into existence, or are caused. God isuncaused and uncreated - He simply exists.
How do we know this? Well, we know that from nothing, nothing comes. So if there was ever a time when there was absolutely nothing in existence then nothing would have ever come to exist. But things do exist. Therefore, since there could never have been absolutely nothing, something had to have always been existing. That ever-existing thing is what we call God.

2006-09-22 23:04:13 · answer #2 · answered by K 5 · 0 0

God has always been.

Why not create the world, (it's been here for thousands of years), and then destroy it? We had to have some where to live, before going to Heaven.

2006-09-22 23:10:47 · answer #3 · answered by creeklops 5 · 0 0

Why do you ask this question? I do not think that anyone can answer your question. He created the world in six days, the seventh day he rested. That is the sabbath day. People celebrate sabbath day Sundays; but, it should really be celebrated Saturdays. Sabbath comes from the Spanish language, which is Sabado (Saturday). I think he has existed forever. If you search in the bible, you will find the answers to your question. World creation happens in Genesis. Seek and you shall find.

Now, can someone tell me what fruit did Adam and Eve eat? I have asked people around and no one seems to know. Please give me some feedback.

2006-09-22 23:09:04 · answer #4 · answered by Only out of this world 2 · 0 1

God was never created, the mere thought of thinking of a created God is puting an unlimited God in mans limited mind, do you see fallacy? Our minds cannot fully understabd the concept of an eternal God that always is.

2006-09-22 23:03:50 · answer #5 · answered by k-rad 2 · 3 0

Part of the nature of God is that he has always been and will always continue to be. ....that is, He is eternal. We as finite humans can not begin to imagine what an eternal God is like...becuase we are in a limited time frame. What seems like a long time to us, has no time with God.

2006-09-22 23:05:14 · answer #6 · answered by rejoiceinthelord 5 · 3 0

Nothing or no one created God. He was already there He is the one that created all living things.

2006-09-23 00:03:08 · answer #7 · answered by babygirl 4 · 0 0

God has existed, does exist and will exist through any time. A time which we do not comprehend given our limited resouces. He is not destroying His creation...we are...he gave us the garden and we blew it so he has said make it on your own. Death disease war etc are a result of our sinful choices. It wasn`t part of his plan...he warned us...don`t eat this fruit...God is not created He creates...this is not a chicken and the egg question...

2006-09-22 23:07:01 · answer #8 · answered by Therapist King 4 · 3 1

my Creator created its self out of the chaos that was around it and gave it order.
Yes as it created time as a circle that has no begining or end only a eternal now through which we move.
At all points of the enernal now that make up the circle.
not a world to destroy but to transform.

2006-09-22 23:09:55 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Cosmology theory surmises that somwhere, and no-when, before time began, a false vaccuum condition occurred in an ex-statis (out of time) field of potential energy (called a scalar field). In such a realm, the potential energy is defined as zero. Nothing exists, ergo there is no energy, no time, no nothing. As you say infinity is a very long time, but somewhere in that very long time, something happened (it only had to happen once as far as our universe is concerned). At some point and dimension in this scalar field of potential energy, on a sub-quantum level, the energy potential spiked to where it was not quite zero. That imbalance caused an incredible cosmic event -- space began to unfurl from a point, a "singularity" in 3 dimensions (up, down, sideways). Including time, space began expanding in 4 dimensions. According to superstring theory, there were (at least) 7 other dimensions, but they did not expand. Instead, they curled up really small to act as templates for the vibration energy of strings, giving electrons, photons, and quarks the properties that they have. This event happened about 4.5 billions years ago. 3 dimensional space and time and a collosal amount of energy started expanding at an incredible inflationary rate. The sub-dimensions generated one-dimensional "strings" that vibrated through Kalabi-Yau manifolds in all 11 dimensions, including time, to manifiest as such things as quarks, electrons, photons and neutrinos. In just one second, this ball of high energy quark soup was the size of the sun, and expanding at a collossal rate. The four fources in the universe (electromagnetism, gravity, strong nuclear force, weak nuclear force) were supersymmetric - they were all the same force. When the universe started cooling a bit from the expansion, there was a symmetry breaking event where the four forces took on separate unique properties. In this high energy, high temperature universe, light was still unable to escape, as photons were constantly being absorbed and re-emitted by the the elementary particles that began forming from the quarks. Once quarks were able to bond, protons (two up quarks, one down quark) and neutrons (two down quarks, one up quark) formed. The energy level was still too high for those atomic nuclei to capture electrons, and the universe was dark. no light could escape. Matter/energy at this point consisted of high temperature stuff called plasma, the 4th state of matter (after solid, liquid, gas). After about 300,000 years, electrons started to get captured by the atomic nuclei, and photons were finally able to burst forth from the cosmic egg. Then there was light (about 300,000 years after the bang). We can still detect traces of this light, discovered in 1997 and referred to as the Cosmic Microwave Background. As protons started capturing electrons, the basic and most abundant element in the universe was created - hydrogen. From there, the rest is history.

Yes, infinity is a long time. Time started about 14.5 billion years ago with the Big Bang. Before that, there was no time. There was not even a "before." To continue on this line of theory gets complex and, well, very theoretical, but that hasn't stopped cosmologists from exploring the concept. On the quantum level (on the very teeny tiny level), the fabric of space is not empty - there is that same energy potential as there existed at the beginning. Virtual particles, like the electron and it's opposite partner, the positron, wink in and out of existence in fractions of a nanosecond. At the quantum level, the spacetime fabric is referred to as "quantum foam." The point being that in that "foam" the arrow of time is not necessarily fixed to move in a forward direction. It can go back in time, or can go in supra-dimensional ways we don't understand. Yet. But theories abound.

God is a quark. Quarks were created about 14.5 billion years ago.

2006-09-22 23:34:33 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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