Christianity allows diversity Islam prohibits it?

Question

Isn't the problem between the Christian and Islamic world down to the fact that a christian country, like England, allows 'foreigners' the freedom to eg. follow their own religion,bring their own way of life and live it here in general society. Whereas all Islamic states prohibit this basic concession. Surely the need to create specialist areas for foreigners living in Islamic countries is a worrying sign that Islam IS an exclusive religion and not conducive to fully accomodating the diversity of the modern world. Isn't it a worrying sign for any religion that anyone with different beliefs or lifestyle is excluded from the general population?
Perhaps more worrying is that the crusades are viewed as history for anyone from a christian country whereas it still seems to be 'current affairs' for the Islamic world........ ?

to blackacre: no i'm not talking about political systems. The political system is PART of the christian (or Islamic) country. You surely agree that there are tendencies towards types of political systems in christian or Islamic countries ie. democracy versus totalitarian? In a muslim state which is the higher authority? the legal authority or the muslim courts? You shouldn't need to look hard to find examples of court pardons in islamic countries being overturned in favour of execution in Islamic countries. So it is not correct to say that the constitutional and religious aspects are seperate. In Muslim countries Islam IS the constitution..........

To let54: the only problem with your example about Dubai is that it is one of the examples I had in mind when mentioning the seperation of foreigners and locals. Even with its tourist aspirations, Dubai STILL does not permit sale of alcohol except in designated, foreigners only areas.

to xxangelchickxx: I raise this question on a general level. Ie. It is GENERALLY true.... it is a trend..... It is MOSTLY the case. So to mention that Pakistan allows churches ( HARDLY disproves the point does it!!!??
The fact you 'know' 100's of Jews etc. in pakistan is also laughable isn't it? ONLY 100's???? How many Jews etc. are there in England? Think it might be a few more than that.... You limit your argument to only your own personal experience 'I've seen nice churches' ???? The point I am making isn't about nice buildings, it is about personal freedoms, or the lack of...........

To moonshine: Don't know WHY you made this comment".....as the middle east is the origin of islam doesnt it make sense that thats were most muslams live?"

Read my question again.... Do I MENTION the middle east? I am talking about ideology not geography.......

to zanyb13: very interesting facts:

" Islam is one of the *most* global religions of the world, actually. Arabs only account for a third of all Muslims around the world." etc...... but they are COMPLETELY irrelevant to the point I am making. I didn't ask which religion has the most followers did i? Am I interested in the geographic make-up of muslims? No. And your points trying to disprove tolerance of foreign lifestyles actually have the OPPOSITE effect.......... And you seem to assume that I base my question on the output of the popular press.... Did I mention any quotes from 'supposed' extremists? No. I am talking about the trends at the STATE level, not individual behaviour.....

Answer 1

You're talking about political systems, not religions. The freedoms you speak of are guaranteed civilly, and many religous people want to restrict them. The difference between freedoms in England and an Islamic state is the difference between a representative state and a totalitarian state: it's a political difference. If the Fundamentalists had absolute control in America, do you honestly think public schools would teach Evolution and comparative religion classes?

Answer 2

I would appreciate it if people knew what they were talking about before they ask questions over and over again, but hey, I'd also want it to rain coffee and snow chocolate. Can't always get what you want.

I'll help you do some research: Islam is one of the *most* global religions of the world, actually. Arabs only account for a third of all Muslims around the world. A third of a hundred million...lessee, that a lot of "other" Muslims mixed in. In the Qur'an, it says that Islam was meant to be a message to all humanity, whereas most other prophets were just sent specifically to a small population. There is a special tax that Islam created to account for non-Muslims living in Muslim countries, so that they would not be obligated to serve militarily if the need arose, and to compensate for not paying Zakah. If you're referring to the slanderous rhetoric spewed out by a few nutballs, I suggest that you look at the majority rather than the (very vocal) minority. Islam as a religion is actually completely accepting to other religions, it just takes someone not biased and blinded by media and extremists to recognize the fact.

Answer 3

Well, it might be interesting to see what happens after the Second Coming. As a Mormon I believe that kindness is true religion. I think everyone should be able to worship how they want, as long as they don't interfere with the life and liberty of others. That does not mean the 100 percent exclusion of religion, but being friendly to everyone and not spreading misinformation about other religions. The Muslims I have met so far in the United States have not been interfering with the life and liberty of others, but extremists around the world seem to forget there is such a thing as free agency.

Answer 4

you are talking about political systems. there are many christians, jews, atheist, etc in arab countries. the problem is that in many middle eastern countries, they arent quite at democracy or are dictatorships.
as the middle east is the origin of islam doesnt it make sense that thats were most muslams live? like in countrys were christianity was once the official religion that its mostly christians?
there are many people who dont think that the crusades EVER ended. like bush in the middle east. MANY people see that as a continuation of the crusades.
besides both christianity and islam both think that they are the "only true" religion, so how can they ever allow diversity?

Answer 5

alistair,
I think that the word you are looking for is FREEDOM. Yes, as I see it, there is only bondage in Islam. Freedom is set aside, as I see it, by Islam. They don't even have a concept it seems, to know that the main difference between Judaism and Christianity is the freedom that Christ brings us. Instaed they attempt to place themselves and others in the bondage of their own Laws.

Freedom allows those to either do good, or be under the bondage of self, the world, and the devil. Sin reigns in the hearts of men. It even tells some that they must tell others that they cannot be heaven bound because of the sin in them. That is: in the sinful things they do. While overlooking the sin in themselves.

Faith is the Law I live by, and I am bound by it. Through Jesus Christ I have eternal life; the Jews have their Torah, the Muslims their Shiriah, and the less of the free are they. They didn't claim the blood of the one who can make us all free.

That's why diversity is in the court of the Christian. We are not saved by the works of a Law, but by faith. And that through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Answer 6

The amount of "freedom" of religion seems dwindling to me; in France (and now other countries are contemplating) they are not allowed to wear headscarves to school. How free! While Islamic countries may not be operating wonderfully, if they were to actually follow the Quran (which encompasses all aspects of a productive, modern nation; such as protection or religious minorites) there would be little problems.

Answer 7

There is nothing wrong with the crusades and the only pity is that they did not finish the job. The Muslim Turks invaded and took the holy lands of Christendom, sacked and butchered Byzantium and fellow Christians from West Europe went to kick them out, alas too late.

I hope In the coming clash of civilizations we shall have another chance. Perhaps Israel will do it for us.

Answer 8

I wouldn't think that's correct. There is a lot of immigration to Arab countries (legal or illegal) and an exemple of that is the Bangladeshi or South East Asian people who go there work in the oilfields. And what to say about cosmopolitan Dubai, more and more populated by Europeans and Americans?

Answer 9

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Answer 10

Why would a muslim country want to allow achohol to be sold freely, it doesnt want a nation of piss heads.

why would a muslim country want british foreigners to spread their theology on sleeping around, binge drinking and treating old people as dirt?

why wouldnt muslims remember the crusades, when christians claim to be so perfect and peacful, its hypocritical.