When you have survived the brainwashing, and the soulbashing, and your bitterness has dispersed...
When you no longer feel put down by their ignorance and arrogance, and hypocritical moral superiority...
When their man made idealogy no longer oppresses you...
When the Christian threat to Democracy has been overcome...
When the mindfuck is over...
Will you become free to believe in god?
2006-09-22 08:39:40 · 29 answers · asked by limendoz 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Mutt, I didn't steal your mindfuck commnet, I just used it like I used everything else (except soulbashing-that brilliance is mine) in that question from the other answerers who are also not obsessed with xtianity.
You should take it as a compliment, like they do in hiphop, that I poliferated your statement.
2006-09-22 08:53:14 · update #1
BTW the "NOT" In my question is sarcasm.
I apologize to all of the atheists who really aren't obsessed; since you mistakenly answered a question that doesn't apply to you.
2006-09-22 08:59:56 · update #2
Captain Atheism: I think you came unprepared for the fight (and not jsut 'cause you're lying down). Remember Don Quixote?
2006-09-22 09:08:46 · update #3
Edit - I don't think I read this question right. I'm just going to say "I don't understand this" for now... :)
2006-09-22 08:47:13 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
I did survive the brainwashing of religion, that bit is true. I wasn't bitter about it, I know why my parents raised me religiously. I don't begrudge them for it.
When I no longer feel put down by WHOSE "ignorance and arrogance and hypocritical moral superiority"? To whom do you refer? Be specific. If you mean "Christians", I don't feel "put down" by any of those. What I do feel is that religious idealogy is usurping the secular law in this country. What I do feel is that the separation of church and state is unlawfully and unconstitutionally shrinking.
When WHOSE man made idealogy no longer "oppresses" me? Again, be specific. AGAIN, if you refer to Christians, see response above.
I didn't become an atheist for any of the reasons you listed. It's not a rebellion and it's not a protest and it's not bitterness or hatred or a point to be made temporarily. I may dislike and resist the behavioral standards and spiritual dictates that have been forced upon me unjustifiably though what was always meant to be SECULAR law, but that same sentiment is held by many religiously inclined individuals as well... it wasn't a motivation to become an atheist.
Atheism is simply being "without belief in a god or gods". Anything else is left up to the individual.
I'm already "free" to believe in any myth I'd like... that doesn't mean I will or should.
2006-09-22 15:41:23 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
It is better to stick with Jesus Christ the Lord.
"As regards the Word particularly, it has existed in every age, though not the Word we possess at the present day. Another Word existed in the Most Ancient Church before the Flood, and yet another Word in the Ancient Church after the Flood. Then came the Word written through Moses and the Prophets in the Jewish Church, and finally the Word written through the Evangelists in the new Church. The reason why the Word has existed in every age is that by means of the Word there is a communication between heaven and earth, and also that the Word deals with goodness and truth, by which a person is enabled to live in eternal happiness. In the internal sense therefore the Lord alone is the subject, for all goodness and truth are derived from Him" (Arcana Coelestia n. 2895).
2006-09-22 15:58:08 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
I am free to believe in whatever I wish or not at all now. Ever since Plato's time, people realized we couldn't control each other's thoughts or beliefs. As an atheist, I don't have any rites or rituals to perform, so I don't even need freedom to practice my beliefs.
I think the only problem for me is ever breaking into politics while remaining in America, at least in the short-term, which is why I'm moving.
Anyway, I am free to believe in god now, but I choose not to because that belief would be wrong.
2006-09-22 15:46:38 · answer #4 · answered by Fenris 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
You can be spiritual without being religious especially without being christian. You can believe in God and not be a christian, in fact id rather believe in a Non christian Pagan version of God than the tyrannical monster you call Jehovah. PS i know youre not trying to be rude but you come of as really tacky/
Also who are you to say that agnostics and atheists might be right? I see you are into very non christian things, you do realize most christians whould say you are not a true christian because you practice Tai Chi and Yoga
2006-09-22 17:15:47 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
What the hell kind of question is that? I don't believe in God for scientific reasons, and science never stops working, it never goes by the wayside. Science is science. I can't prove that god doesn't exist, but I sure as heck can't prove that he exists either. Believing in him is like believing that the easter bunny hops over to deliver the candy to your house every year, or that santa somehow flies all over the entire world and delivers a ludricrous amount of free toys to everyone in the whole world all in one night.
I stopped believing in god the same time I stopped believing in santa. When I grew out of my childhood and realized that some of the things I learned about as a kid have no place in reality.
2006-09-22 15:42:56 · answer #6 · answered by Kyleontheweb 5 · 4⤊ 0⤋
Oh shucks! Why are you limiting me to that old thing? I mean, if I'm going to start believing in fairly tales, I'd adopt the really cool ones. Who wants to take up with the embodiment of cruelty and ignorance conjured up by a bunch of primitive desert herdsmen? C'mon!
I'd take a little Buddha, Zen, a tooth-fairy or two,ooooh, yeah, and those really entertaining Greek god guys & gals! Now THOSE were fun myths. And we can add a dollop of of the Jesus charity and protecting children thing .. that would be OK.
And seriously, how does one become "free" to lie to oneself? Don't you realize you're talking about yourself, not us?
Our pain? Just imagine hearing the same, exact, unwavering, inanity, from every quarter, per secula seculorum. It's in your hands to help us. All you have to do is stop hiding from your doubts, and then relax. In the end you may find a truly great god with whom no one can battle.
2006-09-22 16:06:36 · answer #7 · answered by JAT 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Good Q. Capital G god will still be a fictional character...one of many. The mere fact that gods resemble humans and that humans resemble OTHER apes should be enough to dismiss the idea of a personal creator outright.
2006-09-22 15:54:21 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
not with out proof, that's why we're atheist, not because people put us down. all of those words you've used to describe us- brainwashed, bitter, etc. describe your average religious person ( not just christians).
so settle in it sounds like your mindfuck will never be over.
2006-09-22 15:45:14 · answer #9 · answered by The Key Master 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I'm pretty sure I will continue to believe as I do now. You are making the assumption that you know why I am not Christian. Give you a hint.....It's not for any reason you've stated in your "question".
Blessed Be
2006-09-22 15:44:10 · answer #10 · answered by PaganPoetess 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋