How can atheists deny Christs existance if 70 thousand people witnessed a miracle in spain in 1917?

Answer 1

Yes....

If you are referring to "Miracle of the Sun", it's been debunked (see below)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miracle_of_the_Sun

Answer 2

I posted a question a while back: Why choose Atheism?

I got quite 'told off' for using the word choose atheism, as apparently it is not something that you choose.

I believe otherwise. I think that even if there was a miracle witnessed by thousands, or millions, atheists would either choose to ignore it, claim it was a set up, or provide some other natural/scientific explanation.

The media is also rather anti-christian, so any proof would probably not have been too well publicised, I can't say I have ever heard of this miracle you mention.

Athiests do not choose Christianity as they can't cope with uncerstainty and a lack of proof. This is fair enough of course and we must respect that. They need absolute proof, and regardless of any miracles, I doubt that that proof will come before the second coming of Christ, by which time it will be too late I imagine.



I've just read the other answers now, and you see what I mean, mass halucination, 70,000 thousand liers. They CHOOSE to deny the evidence.

Answer 3

I don't think that many would deny the existence of Jesus. However mass hallucination caused by any number of phenomena is not that uncommon, and the causes are fairly well documented.
What atheist deny is any credible evidence for the existence of an all powerful god. There is a great deal of difference between the "miracle" you refer to and empirical evidence.

Answer 4

You mean they saw Christ? Or did a voice in the sky say "This is Christ? I didn't see any Christ in the pictures taken or the reports.

Did 70,000 see Mary? Or hear her voice?

Did anyone see or hear anything related to God or Mary?

What DID they see? Lights? What did they hear? Noise? What did it mean? In short , what was the miracle?

Even if we could all agree that there was an "unusual event," how does that constitute a miracle? (And by the way, there was one hell of a lot of disagreement as to what and how many saw what.)

Answer 5

They can't! But they can if 70 thousand people who wanted to see a miracle just decided to call something a miracle when it was merely "impressive." A double motorcycle back flip is more of a miracle.

Answer 6

The apparition at Fatima, Portugal is what I believe you are referring to.

This is the most widely documented and authentically reported event of its' kind in modern historical times.

Numerous accounts exist in secular newspapers and journals, along with eye-witness testimony and photographic evidence.

And contrary to the opinion of some of our fellow posters here, it has never been debunked or refuted. It has only been doubted and rationalized by unbelievers and skeptics, who were not there and do not believe that such things can actually take place.

For complete information, go here:

http://www.theotokos.org.uk/pages/approved/appariti/fatima.html

Answer 7

You mean "if 70,000 people *claimed* they witnessed a miracle in Spain in 1917". "Miracle" isn't a scientific concept. It cannot be perceived as such by science. Therefore it cannot be verified, and for all we know, it doesn't exist.

Answer 8

Last I heard Jesus was supposed to have existed about 2,000 years before that. What does Spain, 1917 have to do with anything. And, FYI, natural gas leaks can cause mass hallucinations.

Answer 9

i dont recall hearinga bout a miracle that happened then. did christ appear to them or something? because if this is just some random "miracle" not involving christs present, then its quite easy to see why they deny christ.

and then why do christians deny the possibility of aliens if thousands and thousands of people witness them? (this is your logic, if we are supposed to believe what they say because theres many of them then your inturn supposed to believe what everyone else says supposing there are many saying it. likewise if we had 100,000 people tell you the earth was flat. would that make it true?)

Answer 10

Proof for this?

I already see someone has provided a link to disprove this. Well would you look at that

I can deny Christ all I want and there's nothing you can do about it. However, you don't have to be Atheist to deny Christ, just a non-believer.

Answer 11

Regardless of all the countless miracles that have happened, and been documented in various sources, people will not be converted by them. If they will not soften their hearts and be open to the possibility that there is a higher power than themselves, then they will never believe. That's the bottom line.