http://answers.yahoo.com/question/?qid=20060922102520AAAY8l8&r=w
You demand proof of a deity through a medium that allows you to doubt every answer.
I demanded you prove your humanity through a medium that allows me to doubt every answer.
Did we get any closer to the truth? Perhaps there is a god out there who just doesn't care whether you believe or doubt. So what is the point in trying to deny his/her existence when you cannot prove your belief true?
2006-09-22 06:47:20 · 9 answers · asked by bobkgin 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
There is a world of difference between "I don't know if there is a god" and "I know there is no god". One is wisdom, the other is just another form of fanaticism.
Given how often atheists claim they appeal to logic, they are no more logical than the fundies: assuming absolute knowledge where logic dictates there can be none.
I'd appreciate intellectual honesty that says we lack the experience to honestly claim there is, is not a deity.
"I don't know..." is the first step to wisdom.
It's fine to have beliefs, but to claim they are defended by objective logic is a fallacy and is self-serving. Our beliefs are based on our experiences, and they cannot be subjected to the scientific process. That doesn't make them true or false, just life-changing.
I've focused many many questions on the fundies over this fallacy. Atheists are no less vulnerable, as this line of questioning has demonstrated to those who view life with a little more objectivity and less self-righteousness.
2006-09-22 07:01:55 · update #1
I have no belief. I am without belief. Again, if we are to believe every concept that someone insists is true then we're going to be crushed under the weight of a billion different delusions, flights of fancy and obscure mythologies. You are without belief in several deities, I'm sure. Why?
See my answer to your previous question here: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AnWDQGUZgZJJFSD5C5WeOvjsy6IX?qid=20060922101035AAkesUG
2006-09-22 06:51:43 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
No, actually, you're quite wrong. Your compatriot pursued this ridiculous line of reasoning via email with me a few months ago, and he was equally unable to prove his argument to me.
Your argument is a strawman, and it's also quite false. I can easily prove that I'm a human. Your argument is silly. But, just as your compatriot, you won't admit that.
In essence, the only thing you're proving here is that you won't admit you're wrong. You've proven nothing to any atheists, nor have you converted anyone to your line of reasoning.
That's all I can leave you with, because you simply won't acknowledge any of the answers you've recieved.
2006-09-22 07:08:04 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
It's not really a parallel situetion. I can sit here and debate my humanity all day, and can send a variety of pictures as well. Have you any travel snaps of a supreme being?
The very fact that we are exchanging these messages through the medium of your choice is evidence of a human on the other end...
2006-09-22 06:49:36 · answer #3 · answered by Blackacre 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
You may not be a human. But I know I am, and how this is expressed here. I know other humans and see how they are expressed here. I do not know of any non-humans with the capacity to use this system.
A claim of humainity is plausible, and likely. A claim of non-humanity would require exceptional proof.
2006-09-22 07:05:32 · answer #4 · answered by rorgg 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
This is a very childish approach to a debate. If I assert that unicorns exist, wouldn't you expect me to prove it or shut up?
Same for those who insist your gods exist.
If you can't do it, you're going to be treated the same way as if you asserted the moon is made of green cheese. Like a clueless fool.
2006-09-22 06:50:59 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
"Perhaps there is a god out there who just doesn't care whether you believe or doubt."
perhaps, so i will doubt.
"So what is the point in trying to deny his/her existence when you cannot prove your belief true?"
no point, except for when people start killing in his name
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AlZYnA5k3NOT08fpDRlOFEkezKIX?qid=20060922104842AA8ljbD
2006-09-22 06:55:25 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
The MAJOR difference is that you are only looking at a single method of investigation.
and there is no god....
2006-09-22 06:50:12 · answer #7 · answered by JerseyRick 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
I know who and what I am. I don't need to prove it to anyone else.
2006-09-22 06:55:12 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
*sigh*
2006-09-22 06:51:02 · answer #9 · answered by jen 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋