Christians: Do you know who Constantine the Great was?

Question

Constantine was the last true Emporer of Rome, as well as the first to pass a freedom of religion act. He who squaks loudest rules the coup and so Christianity grew far faster then less agressive religion. Constantine duped the "believewhatevers" into believeing that god guided his hand in battle.
After reunifying the Empire with this brillant move he held the Council of Nicea at which most leaders of the newly found christian faith gathered to finally agree on a belief. This is not only when the day of worship was switched from saturday to sunday, but where Jesus of Nazerth went from man to Messiah. Six years later the Bible was ratifed.
Constantine was baptisied on his death bed because the Pope refused to allow the church to be founded by a pagan.
1) Did you know that your faith was a political move made 1700 years ago
2) You believe in Red Sea partings and walking on water, but why not real history.

I can prove constantine existed with physical proof. what about your belief

Answer 1

You rock! The best way to help them see the truth is with good information like this. But, they will probably not listen to it anyways. Nice try though.

Answer 2

Yes, Constantine's influence on Christendom is well documented. Thus the reason so many pagan ideas and practices are present in Christendom. Holidays, such as Christmas, Easter, Halloween, all have clear and undisputable pagan roots. These were brought into the church by Constantine and his successors. Rome's greatest empirical quality was its diplomacy. It was very tolerant of those it conquered. Constantine continued this when he adopted Christianity while nearing death.

This is why so many false religions exist today. The cross, the Trinity, and hellfire have all been linked to this collaboration.

I am a Christian, but I do not ascribe to these false religious ideas, but rather to the Bible alone.

Answer 3

I am sorry, but what you quoted is not real history.

The Christian (Catholic) Church existed before Constantine. Remember all the movies we have seen where the Christians were fed to the lions? Those were members of the Christian Church. Constantine ended the persecution of the Christians. It was a later emporer that made Christianity the state religion.

Constantine asked the Church leaders to gather to resolves some issues regarding the beliefs of the Catholic Church. There were some arguments among Christians and Constantine wanted the arguments to end. Some of these arguments were concerning the divinity of Jesus Christ and which books were to be included into Scripture.

Answer 4

There is ample proof not only in the Bible, but also in historical sources such as the writings of Iraneus and Justin Martyr that Christians were already meeting on Sunday to commemorate the resurrection of Christ. Furthermore, there is an abundance of historical evidence that Christians worshipped Christ as the Messiah long before The Council of Nicea. Even the Jewish Talmud recognizes that Yeshua had a following of those who worshipped Him. Also, Nicea was an attempt to eradicate the false teachings of Arius - who denied the deity of christ. Just because one man with a small following taught false doctrine, how can you assume that this was the belief of Christianity as a whole? Many believeres in ancient times (falsely) waited until their deathbeds to be baptized in case they continued to sin. Finally, in proving the existence of Constantine, Christianity is not harmed. We don't doubt his existence. Be careful when you call revisionary history, "real history."

Answer 5

The emperor Constantine isn't seen a saint by Roman Catholics, yet purely by eastern Orthodox Christians. Constantine did no longer discovered any faith and he purely grew to become a Christian on his deathbed. He did no longer make Christianity the State faith of the Roman Empire (Theodosis (advert 378-398) did). He purely stopped the persecutions against Christians and allowed them to prepare publicly their faith.

Answer 6

Your take on this is remarkably short sighted, and takes many liberties with the known historical facts.

The church had long ago settled its' beliefs. The Council of Nicea merely confirmed and published the facts, as virtually all Christians of the time already understood them.

Christians had worshipped on Sundays for over three centuries by then.

Jesus was known to be God from he earliest days, as all the books of the new testament properly reflected, as early at 65 AD.

The books of the Bible had been in constant use since the mid to late 1st century by the whole church. They were officially canonized at the later date you mention.

Constantine could have been baptized any time. He chose to wait until later because:

1) As Emperor, he didn't like to appear subserviant to anyone, especially a powerful religious leader, like the Pope.

2) He was a sly and very brutal emperor who needed to do some very nasty things in order to maintain his power.

3) He knew that baptism washed away all sins.

In the old testament God prevailed upon king Cyrus to allow the Jews to return to Jerusalem, and to finance the rebuilding of the temple, so it would be there in time for the arrival of Christ, and the founding of Christianity.

I new testament times God prevailed upon Constantine to make Christianity the official faith of the Roman empire, and to finance many beautiful churches and shrines, so that Christianity could quickly spread, and convert the entire pagan world to the one, true faith.

Anything to the contrary is bunk!

Answer 7

Constantine was a conquoror who invaded and took over Rome. Then he forbade all religions not Christian (and not as peaceably as you might think). The Council of Nicea was not exactly voluntary and many who did not agree to his ways were killed. I'm not Christian but I do study ancient history. His "act" had nothing to do with religious freedom.

Answer 8

Good argument - but you are mostly WRONG. Constantine was a superb, scheming politician - and he did use Christianity as a way to keep his power (he said he saw the sign of the cross in battle, etc.) What Constantine did is essentially start a religion.

Watch this: THE REASON HE USED THIS SCHEME IS BECAUSE THE GOSPEL OF THE MESSIAH (JESUS) WAS SPREADING LIKE WILDFIRE. HE JUST JUMPED ON THE OPPORTUNITY TO HOLD ON TO POWER.

Answer 9

Disagree...

My belief is in a God who sacrificed his own Son so that I may live. Thats the fact. Whether someone ratified it or double stamped it as being true makes no difference to me. God wrote the Bible. Thats the fact. Just because somebody voted it as true doesn't matter to me. My beliefs are based upon the true God, not an emporer who embraced its beliefs and envoked power to ratify it.

So who says the Red Sea parting and Jesus walking on the water is not real history. It happened. Everyday, more and more scholars and scientist are proving the Bible to be correct. Everyday, anthropoligist and archeologist are finding artifacts and history right where the Bible says it existed. Everyday, real scientist are proving the Bible correct. Thats history.....

Answer 10

Those who look for proof in a religion are going to find themselves sorely dissapointed. Confusing message with dogma is always going to get one into a sticky corner. Can one prove that Jesus was the Messiah? No. However, can one look at his teachings as a blueprint for a way to live regardless of how his message was politicized later? Yes, I believe one can.

Answer 11

most christian know emperor Constanine who ruled over306-337 A.D.and became christian himself.HE made the Christians Dayof Assembly,Sunday.Christianity becomes the state religeon of the Roman Empire;made christianity of his court and to all his subjects to embrace christianity;and many more accomplishments he made in his time of reign.My point is Constatine was a political leader when he is converted;Paul was a pharisee when Jesus called him to His service;and some apostle were fishermen;carpenters;tax collector and very ordinary people.
You are intellgent;wise and knowledgeble person,so i pray that you may encounter Him also in most different way.
My faith starts when i come to know the significant of my existence.