Steep fines for all who employ illegal workers the solution to illegal immigration?

Question

The Big Wall? Deport them all? Who pays for all that?
here is how it works in Spain: we get over a thousand people coming in by boat illegally here (from Africa) and double that by bus from eastern Europe. Illegal immigrants have a hard time finding a job because there is a 60000€ fine per worker if the employer is caught. When that happens the illegal worker can file for residence because he was employed and was denied the right to pay taxes. I see the illegal immigrants here treated humanely. Why some brainwashed people in the US keep blaming the immigrants for their desire to a better life instead of blaming the employers who hire them? Please explain!

Let me clarify that illegal aliens in the US have no welfare access. Why do you guys keep thinking that?

Answer 1

People blame the immigrants because they're lazy. If you notice, the illegals don't have high power great jobs. They do the work Americans are too lazy to do. They blame the immigrants because they've always blamed someone else. Before the illegals, it was the blacks.

Answer 2

I've been promoting an even better system...making it a federal crime punishable by 20+ years in prison for all executives, hiring managers, and human resources personnel of any company caught hiring an illegal. You'd only need a couple of convictions, and noone would try it again. A steep fine is less meaningful than serious prison time...it might be worth the fine for some companies, but it would never be worth the prison time for the CEO!

Currently, there are technically fines for companies that hire illegals, but the fines are so low that it's cheaper for a company to pay the fines than to pay a proper wage. The fines are very rarely enforced, too, so are completely useless.

Unfortunately, here in the United States we have the Xenophobia Party (Republicans) that want to live in a Nazi Germany-like environment with tanks and military with guns roaming the streets looking for anyone that's different and shooting them, electric fences and walls surrounding them, concentrations camps, etc.

random precision...how is that rewarding the illegals? It's not! It is creating a situation where there is no work for them. They would then have no reason to come...or stay!

Bildymooner...illegals cannot receive welfare, food stamps, or anything else except for emergency care at a hospital, you moron!
And emergency-only medical care does not pay the rent or send money home, so is not a reason to come here or stay.

Answer 3

Here is the real deal, there is always 2 sides to a story, and I am torn because I can see both sides probably because of the diverse neighborhood that I live in.

illegal immagrents do get emergency health care here, they can send there kids to school here and it is overpopulating our schools, they do work for less money, and not all of them are farm workers, there is fines imposed on companies that hire illigals, but that does not stop them because the profit outweighs the risk to them, there is also companies that do not tax some of the people that work for them (small independant companies) so there is little chances that htey will get caught, and the men come to here from mexico (where it is ok to mess with 12 and 13 year old girls) and hords of them live in a house until they save up enough money to bring there families here and make the little girls in the neighborhood and their parents uncomfortable, and they do marry silly little girls playing like they are woman get them pregnant and leave them when they get there green card.

On the other hand, and yes there is always another hand, There are illigan immigrant familys in my neighborhood that have bought houses that were falling apart and has in general made the neighborhood much nicer, they start business where there was nothing but abandoned buildings, they do take jobs that no one else wants in order to make a living, and I cant blame them for wanting a better life for themselves and there families. It is hard for them to get citizenship here, and they are pretty self reliant when it comes to getting what they need for there family.

Oh and by the way, who really cares what language a person speaks anyway? I am so sick of hearing that one.

I don't know what the answer is, I know that if we keep going at this rate we are going to be in worst trouble financially then we are now but all those people who talk sh^t on both sides of this issue are really starting to piss me off. If you are going to talk about an issue, you should be well informed about what you are saying

Answer 4

I dint know of anyone off the top of my head that has a problem with LEGAL immigrants but I know of several who have a problem with ILLEGAL immigrants. I understand that these immigrants only want to make a better life for themselves but how about going through the legal channels to do so? ILLEGALS should not have any rights as they are ILLEGAL! Why should I as a tax payer spend my tax dollars on making a bunch of people who basically broke into my country better off than I am? As far as the employers go hey who can blame them for hiring the illegals its not right but it's cheap labor.

Answer 5

Chas Roberts ac/Arizona
Ralph's Catering/Arizona
H&M Landscaping

These are just a few of the Arizona Companies that employ Illegals.

Answer 6

We do blame the employer. But the bigger picture now is that our president says it's okay to let them continue coming into our country and taking much of our work whilst not paying taxes. I don't disagree with anyone coming here, but I do disagree when we allow them to come here, work our jobs, get our welfare, live and drive for free basically, and not have to pay for a cent of it. That's my money they're tossing around, the money I could have for my family. No one is brainwashed here. And I'm sure a big fine would stop a lot of employers from hiring illegal workers.

Answer 7

I think that's a great idea! We should follow in Spain's footsteps and levy huge fines for employing (exploiting) illegal immigrants, who, as you point out, are simply trying for a better life.

Answer 8

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Answer 9

You're literally right on the money, there, enforcing labor laws by emplacing steep fines behind issues of noncompliance does a great job of taking care of the problem.

Answer 10

We have fines for employers who hire illegals. The illegals are also populating 20% of our prisons, they are bankrupting the hospitals, they are taxing our school systems. These Illegals are costing us 87 Billion dollars per year. They are like locust and they are illegal. Spain has many problems and I actually see your problems are much bigger than ours. Maybe we should send our illegals over to Spain. We sure don't want them.

Answer 11

They dont always get hired. Most of the time the get government assistance. Like welfare, food stamps, and the like. We then have to pay for that. If they were all working that would be different. I do agree with fining the employer though.