Do we make too many concessions to please ethnic groups?

Question

A new cemetry has recently opened in Nottingham & the council leaders have decided that all graves will face North East towards Mecca which will obviously suit the Muslim community. However if Christians want to be buried in their traditional direction of East this will be allowed, but relatives of the person will have to apply for 'special permission' which they say will be granted. Now I know the Muslim topic is a bit hot at the moments & this is not intended as another stab in their direction, I would feel the same of any ethnic'minority group & I would also stress that the council decision was not at the request of Muslims but it does seem that we sometimes go too far to cater for such groupings. Let me further state that I believe that our multi cultural society is a fantastic thing and greatly admired by other nations.....but would they make such provision for us...??

Answer 1

We live in a nanny state that is so busy bending over to satisfy immigrants, religious sects etc that they are forgetting the needs of their own people. Although I think a Multi-cultural society is great, I think British citizens are being made to feel second class in their own country. This in my mind only aggravates racial, cultural and religious problems and differences and in the long run is doing more harm than good. Britain is being drained because of the all of our facilities are being abused (e.g nhs), by people who have no entitlement at all, and our goverment does bugger all, or it is a case of to little to late.

Answer 2

Deus Vult.

You're right. There shouldn't be any concessions except for the disabled. For many people, allowing mixed religions in a cemetry is an insult anyway - imaging a Jew being buried next to a mohommedan. There should be at least a separate area for each religion - after all, xtians are supposed to be buried in consecrated ground so that means consecrating a large part of the cemetry. I for one, don't want to be buried next to a saracen.

Even worse is buying meat. Apparently, much of the meat you buy is killed as halal meat (lamb anyway) because it's easier to bless all the meat when it's slaughtered. Now, who want's some slobbering idiot mumbling superstitious rituals over their meat? If you want it, then fine, it should be allowed - in special shops only. Likewise, In Israel, there are frequent efforts to ban the rearing and eating of pork. Now, it's a Jewish state so that's fine also. However. what happens when the councils in the UK decide that selling bacon might offend the mohommedans? It'll disappear, of course. Funny though, we've had Jewish communities in Britain for many, many years and they've never complained. They just have their own butchers. Would the mohommedans do that (exclusively) I wonder?

In passing, the multicultural society is merely a way of destroying all national cultures in favour of a mish-mash watered down society. I for one dislike seeing festivals etc. that turn our country into an eastern bazzar. I'm happy to see traditional folk dance and music on the village green but to have to watch people banging old oil cans etc. and calling it folk music - well, let it stay where it belongs - in a refinery. In addition, multiculturalism can't work as long as different races have different aspirations. All that happens is that towns and cities become divided into ghettos with no-go areas in-between.

Answer 3

Only in the UK would they make such provisions. I have lived in South Africa, America , Zambia where they have a large Muslim population, but everyone there is treated the same. I think the British like to please others at the drop of a hat and they will lose their identity in doing so. I am a black African by the way and currently live in England

Answer 4

I visited KL and found that in this Muslim country I could not openly mention or practise the christian religion, I could not carry a bible or have anything made of pig skin. My view was OK it's there country and culture so I abide by the rules.


What I do not understand is why we are afraid to do the same and say 'hey this is a christian country' If you want to live here you follow our traditions and rules. Things like no Christmas cards at work just in case this upsets a non christian. etc etc.

Answer 5

this situation seems the logical thing to do for everyone has a right to be buried the way they want. however, i am personally surprised that " special permission " must be obtained. although being buried facing north-east would not bother me as the first stone placed in a building is usually in the north-east corner.

Answer 6

we do tend to bend over backwards in our hurry not to offend people, this is leading to almost a sense of charactor suicide as opposed to charactor assasination.
the most unbelieveable thing is saw was when people were told off and fined for having our proud nations' flag flying outside our own homes - as might have offended some foreign persons.
fUK THAT if people get offended by harmless and traditional things of the british - get out of britain

Answer 7

I think it would be unreasonable to deny the right of minorities to live according to their customs and beliefs, insofar as it does not conflict with the laws and conventions of larger society, and insofar as it does not require them to have special privileges that are not accorded to other groups. However, I think it would also be unreasonable to expect larger society to live according to the customs and beliefs of the minority.

So, for example, if the minority community of Bavarian yak farmers regard chicken as an abomination, and require that chicken meat never be eaten, and images of chickens never be displayed in Bavarian yak farmers' houses, then by all means let them live like that, but they should not expect to be allowed to torture chickens in order to get demons out of them (because that would conflict with our laws on animal welfare) and they should not expect wider society to ban posters advertising "Chicken Run" so that they don't have to look at them.

Answer 8

1) what harm is done by allowing things such as that?
2) whats wrong with being the better person and being the one to give, even if they wouldn't?

Answer 9

Of course they wouldn't.

In their countries, or any other country we would have to live by the law of the land, I respect that, but it should be a 2 way thing

Answer 10

I know thousands of Christians, and I know quite a few Muslims and out of he two I would say the Christians are alot less religious and realy couldn't give a damn which way they faced when they croaked. Whereas the Muslims I know actually DO pray for actual religious reasons not the classic Hollywood *Make me rich and famous*.