Creationists, let's assume there is no Theory of Evolution, how does that advance the "God did it" argument

Question

Without citing scientific discoveries (you reject science as evidence), the bible or anything related to the bible, prove your claim that "God did it."

If you cannot, then you have no valid claim.

Promoting the "Wedge Strategy" does not advance your argument.

"I don't know" does not really mean "God did it."

My opinion is that the universe and life have always existed, there was never any time that "nothing" existed.

But, my opinions are irrelevant to the question. I want creationists to prove their claims.

"Dr. Dino" is a known fraud & charlatan, currently under indictment by the US government:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_Hovind

How do you know how the "universe is put together"?

And, evolution does not exist, so why are you citing evolution? Life did not evolve, there was no evolution.

How does that prove "God did it"?

Robert, you are literate, right?

The bible is not evidence. The bible has been discredited more than that theory that doesn't exist.

I've asked a question about the "Theory of God Did It" and all I get are references to evolution & the bible?

In other words, there is ZERO evidence to support the "Theory of God Did It"?

That other theory sounds more plausible, if it existed.

UPSMan, I tried to read your comment and it appears you are claiming (summarized) "life is complex so God did it."

Or, "I don't know" means "God did it" since that's what you believed in the first place.

Okay, that's your personal opinion, but is hardly proof.

Answer 1

hocus pocus ?

pts....pts.....here between you and me, their god was a witch.
good old friend of mine...
but we're not talking to each other anymore.

Answer 2

perchance by way of fact I come from a technology historic past, i'd desire to on no account understand using the be conscious "purely" in "that is purely a theory". that is purely approximately as though people don't comprehend what theory actual ability. in the event that they have been to assert "that is purely a speculation", concerning an theory unsupported by making use of any info, they might have some credence, yet no longer with "theory", which shows info and popularity. Edit: @God is reality: <> A "regulation" is a "punchline" or shortcut of a theory. on an identical time as a theory would have many pages of derivation and define, sometimes that is decreased all the way down to an ordinary equation or quite a few. those are regulations. to illustrate, Newton's theory of familiar Gravitation is extremely huge, component to a three quantity paintings, whether that is decreased to an ordinary regulation: rigidity F = GMm/r² the place G is the Gravitational consistent, M & m are the masses, and r is their separation. it incredibly is all a scientific regulation is.

Answer 3

Theory of evolution was written by a man who was throwing ideas in the wind so to speak, and suddenly Darwin has solved the issue of how the world has evolved. Humans give him way too much power. Darwin's theory is full of holes. Science actually is more God minded than just thinking that the universe is freekish chances that created the earth & universe as we know it.

Actually science points more twards a higher power. Science & the Creator prove one another.

Answer 4

sure they have no "science facts" but the Theory of Evolution undermines their control over the masses. No Theory of Evolution means they have full control of what is "real", kinda like the Earth is flat and if you ride a ship to the edge you'll fall off.

Answer 5

Unfortunately science has not provided evidence that there was no spontaneous creation of life by evolution. The Principle of Scientific Verification could NOT prove its own existence so how does Empirical Science,or Deductive and Inductive Reasoning prove evolution ?

Answer 6

Sir, don't really wan to argue with you, but if you look at the ever so careful way that our universe is put together, I can't buy into the fact that it "just happened". Someone had to plan it out and create it to that specification. To answer some of your science questions try this site http://www.drdino.com/ this guy was a science teacher for years. www.answersingenesis.org this is another good site.

Answer 7

First of all, I don't reject science. I reject evolution. Evolution is not science. True science is a process that proceeds according to the scientific method that was originally put forth by Francis Bacon back in the 1700's. The scientific method proceeds along these lines: 1)Observation 2)Identify patterns and irregularities 3)propose hypothesis which advance to theory as more evidence accumulates 4)test and predict 5) theory becomes law.
Using that same method, Louis Pasteur proved the Law of bio-genesis around the year 1800. That is a scientific law. It says that life always comes from already existing life and that LIKE always produces LIKE(rabbits always produce rabbits, antelopes always produce antelopes, humans always produce humans......). Speaking of observation(the 1st criterion of the scientific method), this is what we always observe.....life coming from already existing life and like producing like.. That is why the law of bio-genesis is a scientific law. It's been around for over 200 years and it's never been disproven. It's not non-falsifiable. It could be disproven. All you would have to do is find one example, either today or down through history that contradicted this law. That's never happened. Evolution, on the contrary, is a wacko theory. In reality, it's not even that. Something doesn't get to the theory level in science until there is much reason to believe it's true. Evolution is more like a hypothesis with absolutely no evidence. Again, speaking of observation(the 1st criterion in the scientific method), no one has ever observed an ape evolving into a man or a reptile evolving into a bird or any "kind" evolving into another "kind". You have a proven scientific law going against hypothesis with no evidence and they diametrically contradict each other. The 3rd law of logic(the law of noncontradiction) says they can't both be true. I think I'll go with the law. I don't really remember any of my great, great, great, grand parents being gorillas.
I can't speak for all religions. But science and christianity don't conflict. What christianity conflicts with is evolution which is not science. The fossils do not show evolution. They actually show complex creatures appearing suddenly during the cambrian explosion with no transitional forms before them. Darwin was aware of that problem. He said "they're out there by the millions.....you should be stumbling over them as you walk out your back door". That's a quote from Darwin. His explanation as to why they hadn't found them yet was that archeology was in it's infant stages at that time. He predicted that after he was dead they would find them by the millions. But here we are 150 years later and they still haven't found any. Stephan J. Gould who was a Harvard paleontolgist and one of the top evolutionists in the world until he died a few years ago said this:"there's a trade secret among the paleontologists of the world.....namely, that the transitional forms don't exist". My question would be...why is it a trade secret? If the evidence doesn't show evolution why don't they tell the world. The reason is because evolution is a religion just like christianity(just read Ann Coulters new book'Godless'). Evolution, like christianity, must ultimately be accepted by faith.
But christianity is faith based upon reason. Evolution is just blind faith based upon nothing.
You need to re-think your views about evolution. Your body has enough information to fill books (the size of encyclopedia books)
stacked from here to the moon and back 500 times. DNA is a language. It has letters. The letters combine to form words. The words combine to form sentences and when they are all put together they form meaningful information that the body uses. A man and a woman have sex. The sperm combines with the egg. You now have your 1st cell. That cell divides and you have 2 cells. It divides again and then you have 4...and then 8...and then 16,32,64, 128, 256 and eventually you have a small embryo consisting of millions of cells. At that point those cells are undifferentiated. But they are not going to stay undifferentiated. Some are going to become brain cells, some skin cells, some kidney cells, some heart cells and on and on. How does each cell know what to become? It knows because inside of every cell there is an instruction booklet called the DNA which not only tells it what to become but how to become it.
Suppose, when we landed on the moon in 1969, the astronauts found a moon buggy just sitting there. Most people would say that there must be other life out in the universe. How else would that moon buggy get there? Some hard core evolutionists might say "well, if you break down the moon buggy to its basic elements, its basically just matter and molecules in motion just like the moon rocks........if the moon rocks could evolve why couldn't the moon buggy"? Not too many people would agree with that assesment. But let's just suppose that underneath the seat they found an instruction booklet. There might be one nutty evolutionists who might say, "well, again, the instruction booklet is just like the moon rocks if we get down to the basics....just matter and molecules in motion.....If the moon rocks could evolve, the instruction booklet could evolve? Very, very few people would agree with that assesment. But even if you could bring yourself to believe that the paper and ink are just matter and molecules in motion and could evolve what
about the way the ink is formed into symbols(namely letters) that spell out words that have meaning that told you how to change the tires and batteries and how to change your oil and so on and so on. You'd have to be a nutbag to believe that those symbols came about just by random chance evolution. Those symbols are not matter and molecules in motion. They're information. Information does not come about by random chance. Your body is a zillion times more complex than any moon buggy and has a zillion times more info. It's instruction booklet is a zillion times more compacted with info than any instruction booklet for any moonbuggy or car or aircraft carrier. This isn't a put-down. I'm not trying to say you're not very smart. You're probably very intelligent though I don't know you personally. But you've been brainwashed to believe this nonsense since you were knee-high to a grasshopper and you've been taught not to think it through to it's logical conclusions in our public schools. Life doesn't come from dead chemicals.
You say "Creationists, let's assume there is no Theory of Evolution, how does that advance the "God did it" argument".
Am I missing something here? Everywhere you look in the universe there is design. Where there is design, there must be a designer. Who could design a universe? You can call him anything you want. Call him the great designer. Call him the all-knowing omnipotent power. Call him casper the friendly ghost. I call him God. Only a God could design a universe with all of its intricate physical laws and that includes such a complex thing called life. Things either came about by a creator or they came about by random chance. Again, AM I MISSING SOMETHING HERE? Is there a third option? If I was flying over the beach in a helicopter and I saw written on the sand" go Lakers beat Celtics", there is 2 ways(AND ONLY TWO) that this could have happened: 1)the wind and the waves and random chance created it 2) some lakers fans wrote it on the sand. Which makes more sense? That writing on the sand is information. Information never comes from dead chemicals. Isn't it much easier to just believe the design you see in the universe and come to a common sense conclusion that the designer created the universe as it says in Genesis 1:1?

Answer 8

I see proof of Creation everywhere:

[Rom 1:20] Ever since the creation of the world, his invisible attributes of eternal power and divinity have been able to be understood and perceived in what he has made. As a result, they have no excuse;

I believe this because I have faith and:

[Heb 11:1] Faith is the realization of what is hoped for and evidence of things not seen.

Answer 9

Evolution is a religion. I believe God the Creator made everything, that is my believe or religion, someone believing in evolution makes it their god, because religion is something you have to believe in. What upsets me is that I have to pay the schools money for them to teach my kids someones else's religion, and that is unfair.

Answer 10

Read Lee Strobel's "Case for a Creator."

More and more scientist are becoming Christians ...or believing in some kind of God.