If you showed up at a nice restaurant & had money to pay for dinner, yet they had no available tables because they were all full, would you insist that you had the same right to eat there as everyone else, even tho you had no reservation? Would you cram extra tables into the restaurant and seat yourself in front of the others who were patiently waiting before you came in, and would you demand to be waited on there, or would you put your name on the waiting list and wait your turn like everyone else?
2006-09-21 19:29:26 · 19 answers · asked by julie j 6 in Politics & Government ➔ Immigration
DWS: Where is the woman's husband? Why did she have so many children if she cannot support them all? Does she expect us to educate those children & provide her family with free health care & housing as well? What if we do provide for her & the next night she is back with all of her friends and relatives and they are all hungry too? We feed them. And the next night, all those relatives bring all their friends and have their hands out too? The point is, how long can that continue? The only fair thing to do is to have everyone follow the same rules, come in the front door, & don't try to bypass the system by sneaking in the backdoor.
2006-09-21 20:44:42 · update #1
Yeah, that's about right. The only difference is that it isn't an actual crime to go into a restaurant that is already crowded and be seated and be demanding. But on the other hand it is a crime to come into the country through illegal means and take all the benefits that others paid for. Then on top of that protest when you are called a criminal.
I explained to my daughter that it would be like working hard all week long, the government taking $60.00 a week out of your paycheck with the intent that when you retire or get ill you will get the benefit of that money. Then someone who isn't here legally putting their hand out, and the government giving them YOUR hard earned $60.00. "Give us your tired".....yeah, but just make sure they are here legally and don't take money out of our pockets!!
2006-09-21 19:40:58 · answer #1 · answered by godsgirl 4 · 2⤊ 2⤋
Great analogy, that is very much how I see the situation. But it must be human nature, as it reminded me of a funny but true story. It wasn't funny to me at the time though. I was working in one of the nicer fast food restaurants on the busiest day of the week. I had to take orders and keep the dining area looking nice. As I was taking orders I had to ask if it was dine in or carry out. I warned everyone that the dining rooms were completely packed, but many insisted on dining in anyway. When they got through the line and couldn't find a seat anywhere people were standing around looking lost, actually setting their trays on the trash can area and eating standing up, and cursing at me for the poor service. I warned them! What the heck did they expect me to do? Maybe we should let the illegals suffer poor hospitality instead of setting up extra tables for them. Then we wouldn't have so many!
2006-09-22 08:20:05 · answer #2 · answered by DJ 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
This is a terrible analogy. It does not work at any level.
The politics of immigration aside, this does not bear any intellectual scrutiny:
First of all ..if you have money, restaurants have procedures that will ensure you get a table ( i.e ring up and book in advance )
Similarly..if you have money ..countries have policies that will let you enter. Apply for a visa. People who can support themselves have NO difficulty getting these ( though even they will normally be turned away in a restaurant if it is full )
How does this analogy work for you????
You are the manager of a restaurant. Business is booming. You are full. The chef comes to you and says that a woman and her child have come to the kitchen door in the rain and are asking for some left over food and in return she will help wash the dishes.
What do you do ???
Reply to Julie_J: Your "what ifs" simply highlight the weakness of your analogy. As with all analogies that do not work we could ping pong on this forever.
What if you turn her away she and the kid contract pneumonia and die ?
What if you give her the food and shelter..she is a fantastic dishwasher...you hire her permanantly..she feeds and educates her child ..he grows up and invents a cure for cancer ..yada yada yada
From a moral perspective who cares about where her husband is.... . she and her child need food and shelter and she has offered to do something in return that will be of service to those who have the means to provide it.
In the history of the world I cannot think of a single migrant poulation who collectively caused a problem for their hosts. The problems always originate from the bigotry and irrational fears of an unthinking sub set of the host country.
An good recent example would be post war Britain where immigration was opened to citizens of former colonies. People warned of Rivers of Blood because of the influx of Indian and West Indian cheap labour. The only problems that happened were are a direct result of injustices inflicted on those people ( by a small but vocal minority ). It is hard to imagine now how poorer Britain would be culturally and economically without their presence.
Immigration restrictons are simply a form of protectionism. No instument of protectionism has ever reaped any long term benefits to anyone. Remove it and conditions will improve and a natural balance is achieved.
I live and work in India in the call centre industry. One of the most common questions I get asked is why do Americans customers hate us when British customers are so nice? The most charitable answer I can give is that British people have had positive exposure to Indians due to to it's open immigration policy.
God made the world and did not lay down any restrictions on movement. Why should man think it right to do so ?
2006-09-22 02:43:56 · answer #3 · answered by dws2711 3 · 4⤊ 4⤋
I would know before going to a restaurant whether I needed reservations or not. I would put my name on the waiting list, IF I wanted to wait. If not, I would go somewhere else.
2006-09-22 02:32:50 · answer #4 · answered by kitty fresh & hissin' crew 6 · 3⤊ 0⤋
Good, but you see, Uncle Restaurant has allowed the filling of the tables for years and years without reservations and did nothing about it...did Uncle Restaurant have a motive, maybe, are they his 'kins' siblings filling the tables?...why now is it so difficult to get a table and why now is everyone fussing about it?
2006-09-22 02:40:25 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 3⤋
I think it is far off. If America can get to a point to say it is full then what is next? Are we going to force couples to have only one child like China? Maybe you are saying we are only full if we don't like what is trying to come in? America was founded by immigrants, and Native Americans paid that price. It was founded to be a place for people to start over, and should remain that way. We are the melting pot aren't we?
2006-09-22 02:39:44 · answer #6 · answered by gabby_girl_gabby_girl 2 · 3⤊ 3⤋
in that instance thats why there is a waiting list...you dont like it then leave...go to another restaurant
2006-09-22 02:31:44 · answer #7 · answered by eonetiller 4 · 3⤊ 0⤋
Yeah...immigration is JUST like waiting for a table at a restaurant. Because EVERYONE calls in advance for a reservation.
Grow up.
2006-09-22 02:37:30 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 5⤋
wait in line like everyone else.
2006-09-22 04:17:25 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
This person asking this kind of question must be a Korean or Chinese.
2006-09-22 03:24:17 · answer #10 · answered by G.I noel 3 · 0⤊ 2⤋