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2006-09-21 15:12:10 · 8 answers · asked by Faith walker 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

My Bible says Holy Spirit, I know, God the Father,God the Son & God the Holy Spirit I just wondered where did the term 'Holy Ghost' orginate? from a language? translation?

2006-09-23 06:00:57 · update #1

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The Tyndale New Testament Commentaries, I, 275:
"It is often affirmed that the words in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost are not the ipsissima verba [exact words] of Jesus, but...a later liturgical addition."

Tom Harpur:
Tom Harpur, former Religion Editor of the Toronto Star in his "For Christ's sake," page 103 informs us of these facts: "All but the most conservative scholars agree that at least the latter part of this command [Triune part of Matthew 28:19] was inserted later. The [Trinitarian] formula occurs nowhere else in the New Testament, and we know from the only evidence available [the rest of the New Testament] that the earliest Church did not baptize people using these words ("in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost") baptism was "into" or "in" the name of Jesus alone. Thus it is argued that the verse originally read "baptizing them in My Name" and then was expanded [changed] to work in the [later Catholic Trinitarian] dogma. In fact, the first view put forward by German critical scholars as well as the Unitarians in the nineteenth century, was stated as the accepted position of mainline scholarship as long ago as 1919, when Peake's commentary was first published: "The Church of the first days (AD 33) did not observe this world-wide (Trinitarian) commandment, even if they knew it. The command to baptize into the threefold [Trinity] name is a late doctrinal expansion."

But it is unnecessary to discuss this point at length, because even if the ordinary (modern Trinity) text of Matthew 28:19 be sound it can not represent historical fact.

Catholic Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger:
He makes this confession as to the origin of the chief Trinity text of Matthew 28:19. "The basic form of our (Matthew 28:19 Trinitarian) profession of faith took shape during the course of the second and third centuries in connection with the ceremony of baptism. So far as its place of origin is concerned, the text (Matthew 28:19) came from the city of Rome." The Trinity and text of Matthew 28:19 therefore did not originate from the original Church that started in Jerusalem around AD 33. It was rather as the evidence proves a later invention of Roman Catholicism completely fabricated. Very few know about these historical facts.


Wilhelm Bousset, Kyrios Christianity, page 295:
"The testimony for the wide distribution of the simple baptismal formula [in the Name of Jesus] down into the second century is so overwhelming that even in Matthew 28:19, the Trinitarian formula was later inserted."

Hastings Dictionary of the Bible 1963, page 1015:
"The Trinity.-...is not demonstrable by logic or by Scriptural proofs,...The term Trias was first used by Theophilus of Antioch (c AD 180),...(The term Trinity) not found in Scripture..." "The chief Trinitarian text in the NT is the baptismal formula in Mt 28:19...This late post-resurrection saying, not found in any other Gospel or anywhere else in the NT, has been viewed by some scholars as an interpolation into Matthew. It has also been pointed out that the idea of making disciples is continued in teaching them, so that the intervening reference to baptism with its Trinitarian formula was perhaps a later insertion into the saying. Finally, Eusebius's form of the (ancient) text ("in my name" rather than in the name of the Trinity) has had certain advocates. (Although the Trinitarian formula is now found in the modern-day book of Matthew), this does not guarantee its source in the historical teaching of Jesus. It is doubtless better to view the (Trinitarian) formula as derived from early (Catholic) Christian, perhaps Syrian or Palestinian, baptismal usage (cf Didache 7:1-4), and as a brief summary of the (Catholic) Church's teaching about God, Christ, and the Spirit:..."

Theology of the New Testament:
By R. Bultmann, 1951, page 133 under Kerygma of the Hellenistic Church and the Sacraments. The historical fact that the verse Matthew 28:19 was altered is openly confesses to very plainly. "As to the rite of baptism, it was normally consummated as a bath in which the one receiving baptism completely submerged, and if possible in flowing water as the allusions of Acts 8:36, Heb. 10:22, Barn. 11:11 permit us to gather, and as Did. 7:1-3 specifically says. According to the last passage, [the apocryphal Catholic Didache] suffices in case of the need if water is three times poured [false Catholic sprinkling doctrine] on the head. The one baptizing names over the one being baptized the name of the Lord Jesus Christ," later expanded [changed] to the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit."


Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900) wrote THE ANTICHRIST (1888
Every word that comes from the lips of an "early Christian" is a lie, and his every act is instinctively dishonest--all his values, all his aims are noxious, but whoever he hates, whatever he hates, has real value . . . The Christian, and particularly the Christian priest, is thus a criterion of values.
http://www.publicappeal.org/library/nietzsche/Nietzsche_the_antichrist/the_antichrist.htm

2006-09-21 16:04:59 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

The Holy Ghost basically is God's Spirit that's on the earth.

2006-09-21 15:27:04 · answer #2 · answered by inteleyes 7 · 0 0

Holy Bible.

2006-09-21 15:15:03 · answer #3 · answered by pirateron 5 · 1 0

Holy Ghost is referenced over 90 times in the New Testament
the third person of the God Head.

2006-09-21 15:19:22 · answer #4 · answered by fireproof 3 · 0 1

It in the book of Acts Starting with Chapter One and Two

Act 1:8 (Jesus Said)
But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon YOU .........

Acts 2:3
And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them..
Acts 2:4
And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance

2006-09-21 15:33:21 · answer #5 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

also known as the spirit of truth in the bible> Jesus mention the holy spirit when he commanded his disciples to baptize in the name of the father son and holy spirit, and when he would send the comforter (holy spirit) to guide the church when he would return to the father in heaven>

2006-09-21 15:16:06 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

it the spirit of god it sent to take place of Jesus or it is Jesus spirit

2006-09-21 15:17:33 · answer #7 · answered by rnd1938 3 · 0 0

the 1611 KJB

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2006-09-21 15:15:23 · answer #8 · answered by Tim 47 7 · 1 0

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