Many Christians insist that when children and other peope recite the pledge of allegiance that they say that the country is "Under God" or they do not say the pledge at all.
Obviously an Athiest who does not believe in God will have objections to herself or her child making a verbal pledge that their country is subservient to supernatural beings.
Most American athiests believe that the country is subservient to the people, like the constitution says.
Is this what the Christians want? Are they telling athiests and their children "your loyalty to the flag and the country is NOT WANTED, unless you pledge allegieance to God?"
I'm just wondering why the Christians want to sabotage the patriotism of certain children.
2006-09-21 12:44:37 · 6 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government ➔ Civic Participation
This is an example of how one's intent can be misinterpreted. Christians want "under God" retained in the pledge because THEY believe in one nation under God. Chistians do not want to infringe on anyone's right to not believe in God, Christianity, unlike Islam, is all about free will. If a child doesn't believe in God then the child simply does not have to say the words "one nation under God." No one, especially Christians, want to force someone to pretend to believe in something they do not believe in. Or practice some form of worship or religion they do not adhere to. The misunderstanding comes in when some people become offended because there are elements in the pledge they do not agree with, and since they do not agree with it, feel it should be removed from the pledge altogether. Even though others are quite happy to pledge to a flag that represensts a unified nation under the protection of the almighty God. So, in reality, the problem isn't that Christians demand obedience and adherence to their beliefs and principles, the real issue for "athiests" as you call them is that Christians insist on the "under God" portion of the pledge eventhough they (athiests) don't want it in there. So it's alright to knock the Christians and their beliefs just so long as some little athiest kid doesn't have to say that part of the pledge he objects to.
What is wrong with this society today? Have people just lost their minds, or what?
2006-09-21 13:02:16 · answer #1 · answered by Tom 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Its not Christians who are filing law suits to take the pledge of allegiance out of school...
2006-09-22 05:54:27 · answer #2 · answered by turntable 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I think Christians believe the country will be better off when they are not sought out and crucified. Be an Atheist its your right. How one can not believe in anything, to think the universe, human conception, mother nature is all by accidents, it all Boggles my mind. No one has ever passed a law to force you to say those words, but they have passed laws preventing Christians from their rights to say and believe those things.
It seems to me that Christianity is under attack from those who want no moral judgments. The I want to do what I feel like.
IF one does not believe in a Deity, do they believe in laws, rules.
I do find it ironic that your an Atheist and cannot spell it correctly.
2006-09-21 19:55:58 · answer #3 · answered by Rick D 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Actually, the words "under God" in the pledge and "In God we trust." on money were created in the 1950s when we were in the cold war.
These words weren't part of the original pledge of alleigance and weren't part of American money pre-20th century.
Of course, the religous right pledges their loyalty to the Christian god, not their country...that's one of the reasons why Rome fell.
2006-09-21 19:49:23 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
Excuse me.
The question is not whether or not you have to say the pledge of allegiance in school, or out of school. The question is not whether or not it should be mandatory. It's not.
The question is, why do the atheists insist that OTHER PEOPLE CANNOT SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WITH THE WORDS "UNDER GOD" IN IT. THEY ARE TRYING TO BAN THE MENTION OF GOD IN SCHOOL BY MAKING IT ILLEGAL. YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, BUT YOU SHOULD NOT BE TELLING PEOPLE THAT IN A NATION WITH FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND WORSHIP, THAT WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SAY THE WORDS "UNDER GOD" IN A SOLEMN PERSONAL PRAYER IN A PUBLIC BUIDLING. THAT IS THE DEBATE. THAT IS WHAT THE SUPREME COURT IS DECIDING. NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO SAY THE FRICKIN PLEDGE, WE ARE DEBATING AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE ALLOWED OUR CONSTITUTIONAL FREEDOM OF WORSHIP AND SPEECH, WHICH THE ATHEISTIC LIBERALS OPPOSE. DO NOT COMMENT ON A TOPIC OF WHICH YOU HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING.
Jesus Christ, learn the facts before you continue your jihad against Christianity.
Do I need to repeat that? Are you totally brain-dead?
NO ONE IS FORCED TO PRAY OR SAY THE PLEDGE.
The debate is whether or not to strip the words "under God" from the official version of the pledge, which is about as official as our national bird. There are other birds. The second point is that the ACLU wants to ban the school's recital of the pledge in school because the official version mentions God.
As does our currency, and our CONSTITUTION, where it speaks of our creator, and our god-given rights.
The debate is frankly illegal. No one should be debating whether or not I am allowed to pray in school or pledge allegiance to God and country.That's none of your business. You believe in what you want, worship the sun like George Carlin, and pray to Joe Pesci. I don't care.
BUT YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO TELL ME I CANNOT PRAY TO GOD IN A PUBLIC PLACE, OR BAN THE WORD GOD FROM OUR NATIONAL PLEDGE, IN A NATION THAT ALLOWS VOLUNTARY WORSHIP OF GOD AND DOES NOT REQUIRE PEOPLE TO PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO GOD OR THE NATION ITSELF!!!!
End of friggin discussion!
2006-09-21 21:13:55 · answer #5 · answered by askthepizzaguy 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No
2006-09-21 19:49:32 · answer #6 · answered by rhymingron 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋