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I have a question about the guy that constantly refers people to look at the AKC website about breed standards. What about colors?? How do people know from those listed standards what colors are for a breed? They leave a little bit out there when it comes to this.

2006-09-21 03:34:58 · 8 answers · asked by bear 2 zealand © 6 in Pets Dogs

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The German Shepherd Dog varies in color, and most colors are permissible. Strong rich colors are preferred. Pale, washed-out colors and blues or livers are serious faults. A white dog must be disqualified This is what is says about my breed, it leaves out what colors there are. There are several other breeds where the AKC leaves color information out.

2006-09-21 03:44:05 · update #1

This is the problem. We are trying to get it through the GSDCA to rewrite the standard when it comes to what is listed about color. I go to shows all the time! LOL I show myself. It is just like trying to explain sable (pattern) to someone that doesn't know what it is in a Shepherd. Agouti is the better term for it actually.

2006-09-21 07:03:36 · update #2

Not all Shepherds in the ring are the same color. You see blacks in the ring, black and tans, black and reds, and varying shades of sables.

2006-09-21 07:05:07 · update #3

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Some standards are simply better written than others. The GSD standard seems to assume that you know what a basic GSD looks like.

Since your standard has disqualified whites, and frowns on dilutes like liver and blue, then you are basically left with varying shades of brown/tan and black, with a preference to the richer shades. There appears to be no preference as to markings, so a shepherd without a saddle or mask should be perfectly acceptable, as is a pure black dog.

Some standards simply are not concerned about color, while others are very specific. The Bernese Mountain Dog standard, for example, is very specific about the placement, color and size of markings, while the Basset Hound standard simply states that any recognized hound color is acceptable and the distribution of color and markings is of no importance (or as we say "no good hound is a bad color"). I actually have issues with the BH standard, as blues are considered undesireable by breeders due to health issues.

Alternately, if you go to the AKC website there is a page where you can find a list of the colors under which you can register dogs of your breed, whether they are acceptable under the standard or not.

http://www.akc.org/registration/colormarkings.cfm

2006-09-21 05:15:12 · answer #1 · answered by DaBasset - BYBs kill dogs 7 · 0 1

That's very strange that the AKC leaves out coat color in their German Shepherd breed description of the breed standard because when I look up my dog's breed which is Chihuahua, they mention exactly what kind of colors are exceptable for their very stringent standards.
And you are sure that you read the whole thing?
Maybe you should drop the AKC or a German Shepherd breed association in your state (there should be several, because G. Shepherds are such a loyal & popular breed) an e-mail & ask them directly. That would probably be the best way to get the most accurate information.
Remember a lot of what you find on the internet is someone elses opinion not always actual fact, so I would get this important info from "the horse's mouth" so to speak.
I hope I could help you in some small way...GOOD LUCK!!

2006-09-21 10:58:52 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Go to a show and look. All the GSDs in the ring are pretty much the same color, some a little darker, some a little paler, but all are the same color/pattern.

Sometimes, with the breed standards, you need to know the breed a bit and read between the lines.


That is what I was saying, they are all some shade of tan, at least to me, a reddish is a tan, a sable is a tan, they are all shades of tan. They are not blue or white, but tan. I have never seen a black GSD in the ring, that is not to say they shouldn't be or never are, but *I* don't see them.

Good luck with a standard revision, they have been argueing about that in my breed for years, it has not been changed. If you know what you are talking about, why are you asking on here??? Most of the people here couldn't tell the difference between a GSD and a Tervuren.

2006-09-21 12:38:25 · answer #3 · answered by whpptwmn 5 · 0 1

Tell us what breed and we can be more specific, but most breed standards are very clear on what colors are allowed. Quite often tho' colors will be described in an addendum, for instance on the Beagle standard it states "any true hound color", but then there is a link at the bottom of the page that takes you to a description of every acceptable color for a hound, including the "pieds"
http://clubs.akc.org/NBC/beagle_colors.htm

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"There are several other breeds where the AKC leaves color information out"

AKC doesn't have a thing to do with it, the National Breed Clubs rite the standards

2006-09-21 10:48:00 · answer #4 · answered by tom l 6 · 0 1

Each breed has a different standard and usually colors are more specific than the example. Another good place to check would be the Breed's parent club, ie German Shepherd Club of America, Cocker Spaniel Club of America. Each parent club sets the standard that the AKC adopts. You should be able to link off the AKC site for whatever parent club you want or google it.

2006-09-21 10:54:49 · answer #5 · answered by mei-lin 5 · 0 1

Which breed? Some breed's do not have a strict 'color' standard and others do. Dals with blue eyes are forbidden to show in Britian but are perfectly acceptable in the US.

2006-09-21 10:40:06 · answer #6 · answered by Dalmatian Rescue 3 · 0 1

I don't know which breed standard you're talking about - the ones I do know all state which colors are acceptable.

2006-09-21 10:37:40 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

They can inbreed them all to be just about any color so it doesn't matter.

2006-09-21 10:38:48 · answer #8 · answered by kellyandpeanut 2 · 0 3

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