honest question, and this time i mean no offense,but why do you christians think that this country was founded by christians,wasent the pilgrams more chatholic and i hate to let you guys have some real bad news,but our forefathers were pretty much freemasons,all our money,our countrys capitals layout points to mason teachings and symbols,they may have been of christian religion,but one could argue that this country was a freemason experiment that work rather well.and yes our money does say "in god we trust",but explain the pagin symbols aswell.....
2006-09-20 18:10:04 · 20 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
blah blah indians were here first....theycame from somewhere too and guess what the white man came and made america what it is,im not saying what our forefathers did was right,but i happend and that is that,american indians were not born straight out of the soil,they came here aswell,and if you want to get tech...the vickings where here way before that fool columbus
2006-09-20 18:29:26 · update #1
and on mason history....i dont get my sources from the internet...i rather dont belive all the net has to say...i read books.......the ones that have sources in them
2006-09-20 18:31:19 · update #2
The Constitution was written by deists and atheists.
2006-09-20 18:12:05 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 6⤊ 6⤋
The Freemasons are NOT a religion, they accept men of all religions and all are equal in their membership. Freemasons have NEVER excluded Jews and Catholics from their membership, that is a false statement. Fewer than half of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were Masons, so the notion that this country was founded by Freemasons is false. Freemasons were a part of the process, but not a controlling part. Indeed, it is expressly FORBIDDEN to talk about religion or politics in a Masonic meeting and always has been. Only 14 of this country's presidents have been Masons and George II is NOT a Mason. The "Skull and Bones" society is NOT a Masonic organization.
2006-09-21 08:07:30 · answer #2 · answered by Taivo 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Rambling but good questions. The "pilgrams" or Puritans were not Catholic. The first wave of colonists came for monetary reasons but they all died - they were bad farmers. The colonists that came and lived were Christian. they came because Europe was tooo open for them they wanted a secluded place where their beliefs would be unchallenged. The Puritans get a bad rap and probably had the best legal system ever used by man. As for masons and pagen symbols... yes many of the founding fathers were Masons and some symbols are semi-pagen... so's Christmas so's Halloween. The Puritan/Pilgrams were pretty cool actually... more open minded than say the republicans of today. Thats why a gayboy like me can type this and not get burned alive for it... so thanks Puritans. I remember you old schoolers.
2006-09-21 01:19:23 · answer #3 · answered by blushredcobra 1 · 1⤊ 1⤋
I don't know that this country was founded by christians...(this website I'm listing "may" be correct (and I've never heard any claims to that):... http://www.earlyamerica.com/review/summer97/secular.html
and may even be the website you read prior to asking your question. But I remember missionaries were here early on making conversions (I remember seeing those missions in CA).
I found on that website this statement: "Masonry welcomed anyone from any religion or non-religion, as long as they believed in a Supreme Being"...which I know to be untrue because as I was growing up in the 1950's and 1960's Jews and Catholics were not permitted to belong to the Masons.
So I really don't know if the websites you've been looking at are correct or not. I do know that many of the Presidents America has had did belong to the Masons, and several of them were related to each other.
So, your guess is as good as mine. I'll have to research it in depth.
2006-09-21 01:21:41 · answer #4 · answered by sophieb 7 · 0⤊ 2⤋
Uh, Cause it was.
The pilgrims etc were coming here for religous freedom.
The pilgrims were NOT Catholic. Catholics and Freemasons are however Christians as they believe in Christ.
You need to read from original sources, and a lot of them, not the crap that might be posted on the net.
2006-09-21 01:27:58 · answer #5 · answered by inzaratha 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
You are correct except the Freemasons are not nearly a christian religion..They are more the oppisite. Yeah are founders were Masons and so are todays presidents..Bush is in the Skull and Bones and each year he worships Moloch "the owl on the one dollar bill" at bohimium grove. Conservitive Christians are scared to admitt this stuff..I guess that makes me a Radical Christian because I know this contry is one big acam and we are all being suckerd. Too many people who still think America is this apple pie white picket fence Leave it to beaver episode are living in La La Land and have no ambition to research the facts on our leaders. They are destroying the name of Christianity...."In God We Trust" was not put on our money until the 1960's.....The Mason sighns were on the bill since day 1...go figure.
2006-09-21 01:21:25 · answer #6 · answered by Megatron 2 · 0⤊ 3⤋
Eh HELLO because they were....
Do yourself a favor and read a bit about our founding fathers.
http://www.archives.gov/national-archives-experience/charters/constitution_founding_fathers.html
The Declaration of Independence
IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's GOD entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their CREATOR with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness
2006-09-21 01:21:00 · answer #7 · answered by ? 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Because they don't bother to read history enough, and they take snippets from things that were written and misconstrue and misrepresent their meanings. The founding fathers Did agree that religion was important in a persons life, But had no place in Politics or running of a country. and they also felt that religion was up to the individual not the government. Just because they referred to a "God" They never said a christian God. Most everyone that believes in a religion believes in a God, Goddess, or combination. so that in its self Dosent mean anything either.
2006-09-21 01:17:32 · answer #8 · answered by Belladonna 4 · 1⤊ 2⤋
and many of our presidents were free masons, as are several other country's leaders today except appaenrly the muslem nations.. that dude from Iran called this to attention recently. This country had two major populations in the beginning. There were people fleeing reliious persecution and criminals. These were the major influences.
2006-09-21 01:15:27 · answer #9 · answered by icheeknows 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Catholics are Christians, and so are some Freemasons. I'm a Christian and a Freemason but I don't know that I would say our country was "founded" by either entirely.
2006-09-21 01:13:32 · answer #10 · answered by centripetalphorce 2 · 5⤊ 0⤋
Pilgrims weren't Catholic. Pilgrims were Puritans, a kind of Protestant.
However, Maryland was founded by Catholics. (Mary-land.)
And the Declaration of Independence was signed by atheists and Deists as well as Christians.
The Christians who say that, say that to mean that everything should be made to go their way today. They are, of course, wrong. We live in a different reality, brought about by people who truly believed in religious freedom.
2006-09-21 01:14:26 · answer #11 · answered by GreenEyedLilo 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋