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Question

If Christians arn't allowed to judge anyone or anything would someone please explain these 2 verses away for me? What do you think God ment when He said in I Corinthians 6:2,3.....

Vs.2- " Do ye not know that the Saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters."

Vs.3-" Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life."

Do these verses give you a spiritual black-eye?

Your wrong SpecialK....The Saint's arn't gonna judge angels in a court of law.

Answer 1

wow. I dunno. I don't see much about Christians "judging". something.


To: answerbeta. I call your quotes and raise you 10. :)

Genesis 16:5
Then Sarai said to Abram, “You are responsible for the wrong I am suffering. I put my servant in your arms, and now that she knows she is pregnant, she despises me. May the Lord judge between you and me.” Read chapter

Genesis 18:25
Far be it from you to do such a thing—to kill the righteous with the wicked, treating the righteous and the wicked alike. Far be it from you! Will not the Judge of all the earth do right?” Read chapter

Genesis 19:9
“Get out of our way,” they replied. “This fellow came here as a foreigner, and now he wants to play the judge! We’ll treat you worse than them.” They kept bringing pressure on Lot and moved forward to break down the door. Read chapter

Genesis 31:37
Now that you have searched through all my goods, what have you found that belongs to your household? Put it here in front of your relatives and mine, and let them judge between the two of us. Read chapter

Genesis 31:53
May the God of Abraham and the God of Nahor, the God of their father, judge between us.” So Jacob took an oath in the name of the Fear of his father Isaac. Read chapter

Exodus 2:14
The man said, “Who made you ruler and judge over us? Are you thinking of killing me as you killed the Egyptian?” Then Moses was afraid and thought, “What I did must have become known.” Read chapter

Exodus 5:21
and they said, “May the Lord look on you and judge you! You have made us obnoxious to Pharaoh and his officials and have put a sword in their hand to kill us.” Read chapter

Exodus 18:13
The next day Moses took his seat to serve as judge for the people, and they stood around him from morning till evening. Read chapter

Exodus 18:14
When his father-in-law saw all that Moses was doing for the people, he said, “What is this you are doing for the people? Why do you alone sit as judge, while all these people stand around you from morning till evening?” Read chapter

Leviticus 19:15
“ ‘Do not pervert justice; do not show partiality to the poor or favoritism to the great, but judge your neighbor fairly. Read chapter

Leviticus 27:12
who will judge its quality as good or bad. Whatever value the priest then sets, that is what it will be. Read chapter

Leviticus 27:14
“ ‘If anyone dedicates their house as something holy to the Lord, the priest will judge its quality as good or bad. Whatever value the priest then sets, so it will remain. Read chapter

Numbers 35:24
the assembly must judge between the accused and the avenger of blood according to these regulations. Read chapter

Deuteronomy 1:16
And I charged your judges at that time: Hear the disputes between your people and judge fairly, whether the case is between two Israelites or between an Israelite and a foreigner residing among you. Read chapter

Deuteronomy 16:18
Appoint judges and officials for each of your tribes in every town the Lord your God is giving you, and they shall judge the people fairly. Read chapter

Deuteronomy 17:8
If cases come before your courts that are too difficult for you to judge—whether bloodshed, lawsuits or assaults—take them to the place the Lord your God will choose. Read chapter

Deuteronomy 17:9
Go to the Levitical priests and to the judge who is in office at that time. Inquire of them and they will give you the verdict. Read chapter

Deuteronomy 17:12
Anyone who shows contempt for the judge or for the priest who stands ministering there to the Lord your God is to be put to death. You must purge the evil from Israel. Read chapter

Deuteronomy 25:2
If the one who is guilty deserves to be beaten, the judge shall make them lie down and have them flogged in his presence with the number of lashes the crime deserves, Read chapter

Deuteronomy 25:3
but the judge must not impose more than forty lashes. If the guilty party is flogged more than that, your Israelite neighbor will be degraded in your eyes. Read chapter

Judges 2:18
Whenever the Lord raised up a judge for them, he was with the judge and saved them out of the hands of their enemies as long as the judge lived; for the Lord relented because of their groaning under those who oppressed and afflicted them. Read chapter

Judges 2:19
But when the judge died, the people returned to ways even more corrupt than those of their ancestors, following other gods and serving and worshiping them. They refused to give up their evil practices and stubborn ways. Read chapter

Judges 3:10
The Spirit of the Lord came on him, so that he became Israel’s judge and went to war. The Lord gave Cushan-Rishathaim king of Aram into the hands of Othniel, who overpowered him. Read chapter

Judges 11:27
I have not wronged you, but you are doing me wrong by waging war against me. Let the Lord, the Judge, decide the dispute this day between the Israelites and the Ammonites.” Read chapter

1 Samuel 2:10
those who oppose the Lord will be broken. The Most High will thunder from heaven; the Lord will judge the ends of the earth. “He will give strength to his king and exalt the horn of his anointed.” Read chapter

2 Chronicles 19:6
He said to the judges, “Consider what you are doing, for you do not judge for man but for the Lord who is with you when you render judgment. Read chapter

Ezra 7:25
“You, Ezra, according to the wisdom of your God which is in your hand, appoint magistrates and judges that they may judge all the people who are in the province beyond the River, even all those who know the laws of your God; and you may teach anyone who is ignorant of them. Read chapter

John 12:48
“ He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day. Read chapter

James 4:11
Do not speak against one another, brethren. He who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks against the law and judges the law; but if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge of it. Read chapter

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Answer 2

1If any of you has a dispute with another, dare he take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the saints?
2Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases?
3Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life!
4Therefore, if you have disputes about such matters, appoint as judges even men of little account in the church![a]
5I say this to shame you. Is it possible that there is nobody among you wise enough to judge a dispute between believers?
6But instead, one brother goes to law against another—and this in front of unbelievers!

7The very fact that you have lawsuits among you means you have been completely defeated already. Why not rather be wronged? Why not rather be cheated?
8Instead, you yourselves cheat and do wrong, and you do this to your brothers.
I Corinthians 6:1-8 NIV

Here the case is made that Christians can "judge" each other to resolve matters rather than do wrong in the eyes of unbelievers.

This is made clear by reading I Corinthians 5:12-13 NIV
12What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?
13God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked man from among you."


I'm a Hindu and I can read all this and get the message, why try to single out two verses and twist the message and point that Paul was stating? Clearly he is not concerned with Christians judging "outside" and "unbelievers", here he is telling the Corinthians that they must judge inside amongst believers. If one starts at I Corinthians 5 and reads all the way to the end of I Corinthians 7 the entire point is made (5 dealing with the immoral members, 6 dealing with lawsuits between each other, and 7 with sexual immorality altogether).

Answer 3

Vs.1-Dare any of you, having a
matter against another, go to
law before the unjust, and not
before the saints?

Vs.4-If then ye have judgments of
things pertaining to this life, set
them to judge who are least es-
teemed in the church.

Vs.5-I speak to your shame. Is it
so, that there is not a wise man
among you? no, not one that shall
be able to judge between his brethren?

Vs.6-But brother goeth to law with
brother, and that before unbelievers.

You can't just pick one or two verses out, usually you need to take along the verses before and after so you can understand what it is actually saying. Here it is saying that Christians should look within the church (in Bible days) to find a JUDGE.

Answer 4

You know they get the idea that we are not supposed to judge from Luke 6:37 "Judge not, and you shall not be judged..." The world often takes this verse out of context and uses it to accuse Christians of being "judgmental" when they speak of sin. In the context of the verse Jesus is telling His disciples not to judge one another, something the Bible condemns (Romans 14:10; James 4:11). In Luke 6:41,42 He speaks of seeing a speck in a brother's eye. In John 7:24 He said, "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment." If someone steals, lies, commits adultery or murder, etc., the Christian can make a (righteous) moral judgment and say that the actions were morally wrong, and that these sins will have eternal consequences.

Answer 5

A few things:

1) These verses refer to the judgment that will take place at the end of all things. More precisely, it is Christ who will judge, through His saints - i.e. they will carry out the judgment that is written. As it is written in the Psalms, "The high praise of God shall be in their mouths, and a two-edged sword shall be in their hands to do judgment among the heathen" and so on.

2) The carrying out of judgment will not be by some kind of "court" or decision that the saints make - it will be by their example. In other words, by being held up to them as to a standard, those who are not worthy of the heavenly kingdom will be judged and condemned when they see the righteousness of the saints.

3) There is a huge difference between "judgment" spoken of in a legalistic sense, and "discernment", which is the proper understanding of these passages in their proper context. In other words, when St. Paul talks about "are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters", and "How much more the things that pertain to this life", he is talking about having the proper Christian discernment to live the life in Christ, to avoid the things that lead to spiritual harm and sin, etc. This is different from the kind of "judgment" you seem to be referring to, about which St. Paul said that he does not even judge himself! These are two different things: judgment v. discernment.

Answer 6

These verses aren't talking about all Christians

They refer to an elite group who are to act as priests and to rule as kings with Christ during his Thousand Year Reign. (REVELATION 20:4, 6)
REVELATION 14:1 shows the number of them

They must have subjects to rule over -
these are the ones living on the earth - PSALM 37:29

So, as Christians we shouldn't judge others. That right is reserved to God, Jesus & the "holy ones"

Any other questions?

Answer 7

you have to cross reference Matthew 19:28, 2 Timothy 2:12 and Rev 20:4.

Paul views believers as fully competent to judge cases where Christians have claims against one another, because they view matters from a godly vantage point. In comparison with their future role in the judgement of the world and of angels (Jude 6) judgments concerning things of this life are insignificant.

Answer 8

Those verses are about believers rules for judging other believers. What we as Christ's representatives must do is what he would do, which is to show non believers his love rather than judge them, which lets face it, if you feel someone is judging you, you will be turned off from their beliefs very quickly.

Answer 9

Vs 2 NAB - "Do you not know that the holy ones will judge the world? If the world is to be judged by you, are you unqualified for the lowest law courts?"
* Holy ones are all that are already in Heaven. The Holy Trinity and the saints. At the 1st judgement Jesus will ask the saints what they think of us, remind all of our right and wrong doings and prayers and such. Jesus takes into account what the saints ahve to say on our behalf. When God says "if the world is to be judges by you..." He isn't saying THAT we are to judge others but that WE THINK we have the right to judge others. History shows us that we do judge others by courts, trials, wars, prisonment, etc. We really don't have that right according to God but we have taken it upon ourselves to become judges, to make up our own earthly rules and punishments.

Vs3 NAB - "Do you not know that we will judge angels? Then why not everday matters?"
The "we" in verse 3 refers to the three Persons of the Holy Trinity. Just like in Genesis when it says that "we will create them in our image." Many times when God speaks He is talking to all 3 Persons at once and about them all at once. So here He is saying that the Trinity is in charge of judging the angels in Heaven so the Trinity can also judge everything else that goes on in the universe. Especially us on earth.

Vs 4-6 NAB - "If, therefore, you have courts for everyday matters, do you seat as judges people of no standing in the church? I say this to shame you. Can it be that there is not one among you wise enough to be able to settle a case between brothers? But rather brother goes to court against brother, and that before unbelievers."
We have taken it upon ourselves to take people to court and judge, make a human decision about the human situation, and punish them. We aren't suppose to do this accourding to God, thus we are sinning. If we judge non-believers the same way aren't we sinning worse? God Himself says "SHAME ON YOU." If we can't settle matters between ourselves and the people that we love, the people that believe that same as ourselves, then how can we settle matters between us and non-believers. When 2 people are completely different then they will never agree on an issue, especially when it comes to morals, sins, faith, and religion. We need to stop fighting and accept each other for who we are and live among each other with love and respect. If we live this way then where is no reason to judge each other.

Continue readin Chapter 6. Verse 7 says"Now indeed [then] it is, in ANY case, a failure on your part that you have lawsuits against one another. Why not rather put up with inustice? Why not rather let yourselves be cheated? 8 Instead, you inflict injustice and cheat, and this to brothers. 9 Do you not know that the unjust will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators {2 unmarried people having sex with each other} nor idolaters nor adulters nor boy prostitutes nor sodomites {homosexuals} 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 That is what some of you used to be; but now you have had yourselves washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God. {the Holy Spirit} {this is our baptism}

When you read the entire chapter 6 you see that it doesn't matter what we have to say about others, what our opinions are of others, if we think they sinned, if we sue others for what we think is rightfully ours, if we punish others, if we imprison others.... God does the judgement and has the only say in all matters. He is the only one that can let us in Heaven or not. So just be concerned for yourself and do as God commands. If we ALL did what God commands then we will ALL enter Heaven.

Answer 10

Read on into the rest of that chapter, it is talking about judging as far as in a court of law. It always helps to read the verses before and after the ones that may confuse you they give you a better understanding.

Answer 11

All im going to say is that spiritually matters can not be understood by someone who is just reading something. Also seeing that someone is void of understanding the bible I will just leave that at that!! GOd Bless!! Also people should knoock thing that they really don't know anything about!! The bible is truth!!!