Why shouldn't gays be able to serve their country in the armed service?

Question

patriotism should not be bound be such meniscule things.

Answer 1

because the homophobic morons in the military now would be watching their own backs instead of each others. i'm kidding. there's no reason homosexuals should not serve in the military. in fact, there are quite a large number of these fine service women and women serving honorably right now.

Answer 2

Today's military is less descriminitory almost to the point where homosexuality is no longer a real issue among most servicemembers. The unwritten policy regarding homosexuality is not only "don't ask, don't tell"...It has been expanded to "don't pursue" also. Most commanding officers will not bring disciplinary actions against homosexuals unless a complaint has been brought to the attention of the chain of command in the form of assualt or harrassment by someone accusing another of being gay. Essentially, if a servicemember tells the chain of command that there is a homosexual person in the unit, unless there is evidence to prove this, a command will not pursue because without evidence, it's just rumor and defamation of character which is punishable under the UCMJ.
Long story short, we have now become accustomed to homosexuals in the military as we have become accustomed to having females serving alongside in combat units.

Answer 3

It is silly, because I know a lot of gays and lesbians that serve thier country in all branches of service. Their comrads know that they are gay, but they are just not allowed to say "I am gay." Personally I believe that is because the government needs one last group of people to scapegoat all of the wrongs of the world onto. They cannot do it to African Americans or the Jewish anymore, so they blame everything on the gays.

From a different prospective: Itmight compromise the mission if people are frateranizing or dating eachother. It is commonly know that the mission comes before the family, the souse or boy friend. Opening the military to gay relationships would jeopardize missions and compromise comradery because some people would be freaked out to share a barricks or shower if they knew folks were fantisizing about them.

Funny enough that I know too many straight & married men that play on the down low, but would never identify as gay (even though they suck c*ck behind closed doors or blame it on "I was drunk").

Answer 4

They can serve and do serve, they just don't serve openly. I contest that when you get the south to agree to it, and when you stop pretty much every hate crime in the us, then you can. Until then this country isn't ready for it. In most units today there is no privacy about anything, and most guys deal with it. They don't like it but they deal with it. To be blunt most infantry guys are homophobic and wouldn't be comfortable in front of gay guys. Especially durning a deployment because they would be self conscious, they feel like they are being "checked out" and that distracts them from the mission. It would hurt unit cohesion and morale. I think if gays served openly now, it would be very dangerous for them, just because of hate crimes ect. You might would even see 'friendly fire deaths' increase or accidental deaths increase. I mean everyone has a sgt they've talked about offing, now there would be a new distraction from the sgt's.

Answer 5

Homosexuals may serve in the U.S. military-- and do.

Opposite-sex sexual relations in the military are already a problem-- be it fraternization (seniors and subordinates having sexual relations is against the Uniform Code of Military Justice), sexual harassment (seniors threatening subordinates unless they perform sex acts or engage in sexual activities), or sexual misconduct (military persons having sexual relations when and where they are prohibited from doing so-- like on guard duty, for example). When you figure in the effect of having homosexual and bisexual personnel as well, the problem gets more complicated.

Since only a small percentage of human beings are homosexual (with a larger percentage being bisexual), regulations are generally promulgated for the norm-- the other 60-80% of military personnel that are heterosexual. If you have a base full of heterosexual men, say, then you don't have to worry about the problems of sexual activity between them. But if some of the personnel are homosexual, then you do have to worry about the problems associated with sexual activities.

The government's most recent solution to the issue is still largely "Don't ask, Don't' tell." You can be bi-sexual or homosexual and still be in the U.S. military, but you may not announce or in any way publicize your sexual preference.

If you're suggesting that openly gay people should be able to serve in the U.S. military, I'd agree. But just as men and women don't shower together because neither may want to be the object of sexual curiosity from the other, men showering with men would like to believe that they aren't the object of sexual curiosity from gay men in their midsts. Of course, you could make all the showers personal stalls-- but that wasn't the way it was done in the past. And it takes time to change things-- to change facilities, to change regulations, and to change hearts and minds.

Answer 6

homosexuality is not a miniscule thing to a homophobe. I am surprised your country's armed services do not allow homosexuals; mine does. the problem with this, though is that there are still a lot of ignorant people out there, even in the service, and they cannot work with homosexuals. The armed services are all about teamwork. You cannot force people to trust each other, or overcome their inhibitions/biases. You cannot train people to do these things, either. Perhaps this is one reason why your country bars homosexuals. If your society does not identify homosexuals as full citizens, why are you surprised your armed services feel the same?

Answer 7

I think the armed forces should be the only place for discrimination.
But you do know they can serve they just can't tell anyone they're gay.
And you know what? That's the way it should be.
If you know someone is gay in your unit, you may not risk your life or you men's lives to save him/her.
I'm not saying it to be mean, it's just some people may react that way.
And the armed forces are in the business of killing people not catering to the approval of the public or media.

Answer 8

Gays can serve in the armed services.

Answer 9

I have a good friend who was given an honorable discharge after coming out, officially. His whole unit knew he was gay, but they got along great. I think its crap that they make you leave if you come out. Hell, half of the gay men I know are more patriotic and would die for this country than alot of the straight men I know. Let them serve.

Answer 10

To True. I say promote understanding instead of spreading paranoia! If you can pull a trigger than you should be able to join. I know that is what "don't ask don't tell is about" But why even have that law. If a HUMAN BEING wants to serve their country then let them!