Jack Dempsey vs. Jim Jeffries, who wins?

Question

Let's go way back in time on this one. Assuming both are in the prime, who wins?

And WHY??????

I think Jeffries had the potential to be the better fighter and KO Dempsey because of his brute strength, but I think Brent’s right. Instead of analyzing Dempsey’s prior fights and adapting his style, I think he would have walked into the ring like Willard with his hands down at his waist (although not as erect, he did fight from “the crouch”). His only hope would have been to take a pretty bad beating waiting for Jack to punch himself out, but that didn’t work for Willard who got a title shot based on his ability to absorb beatings. So I don’t think it would have worked for him either. All things considered I think Dempsey would have won. Nat Fleischer rated Jeffries higher than Dempsey in his all time list. Was he romanticizing his favorite boxing era or did he base his ratings on how each man boxed as compared to other boxers in their day? Who knows…

King Midas I think, Johnson would have beaten Dempsey because he was resourceful enough to adapt his style. But we’ll save my complete analysis for when someone posts Johnson vs. Dempsey, who wins?

Answer 1

Dempsey. He ushered in relentless moving and punching style. Jeffries used that stand up straight no movement late 19th century style of boxing. Dempsey would thrash him inside of 6 rounds.

Answer 2

Jeffries is the bigger man by far & the superior athlete. While it's true that Dempsey had beaten big men, including his suspicious victory over JessWillard wherein he won the Heavyweight Title. He also managed to defeat the Wild bull of the Pampas after Luis Firpo knocked Dempsey clear out of the ring, who subsequently received some ill gotten assistance from the ringside reporters in pushing the Mannassa Mauler back into the ring. The Willard bout seems to have substantial evidence that Dempsey used loaded gloves. In seeing this bout I think that Dempsey's power was so far and away above and beyond any other fight of his that I have seen, I am apt to believe that Dempsey had some illegal pop in his gloves in that bout. Doctors have also gone on record that Willard's injuries were more likely than not caused by a blunt weapon rather than the force of the hardest human punches. Willard went to his grave believing that Dempsey cheated & I do too. Dempsey was totally dominated by Tunney in the 2 bouts that they had. Out of the 20 rounds these 2 men fought, Tunney won 19 of them, with the only round that Dempsety was credited with winning was "The infamous Long Count" Knockdown" which the film indicates that Tunney could have gotten up sooner if need be, but being the brainy Ring technician that he was he took full advantage of the 9 count in order to best regain his composure. If both Jeffriers and Dempsey were transported into 2014, Jeffries's size would enable him to compete in today's heavyweight division & there is a very good chance he could be champion as their are only a handful of Comtemporary Heavyweight Boxers who I can see forsee giving jeffries a legitimate challenge. Meanwhile, Dempsey at 5'11 & 185 lbs wouldn't be able to compete with any consistent success in today's Heavyweight Division. In fact there really isn'ty any Division where a 185lb Boxer can fight for a World Title. When was the last time a 180 something pound boxer even fought for any of the plethora of alphabet world titles availabkle today? Under the current sysatem there's no Division for 180-to 190 lb Boxers. This is why a junior Heavyweight Division needs to be established with the division parameters ranging from 190lb to 200 lbs. The Cruiserweight Division should pretty much reveret to their former parameters wirth the one exception of raising the minimum weight to 180, while increasing the maximum weight for the Light heavyweight division to 179 lbs. Jeffries would have been the only other undefeated Heavyweight Retired Champion with Rocky Marciano if her didn't succumb to the baggerring public and the lure of money too good to turn away from. His fatakl mistake was not fighting a warmup ,atch tio gauge what he had left & after at least one bout, he could only had been better than what he was when he faced Johnson after a 3 year layoff that he was resigned to be his defionite retirement. Jeffries mindset wasn't right as he was making a comeback for all the wrong & even BAD reasons without properly preparing. for a bout with Jack Johnson who is a legitimate name in the conversation for All_time Greatest Heavyweight Champion. If Jeffries never fought Johnson his name would be hundredfold more promenient as being the greatest ever. It's too bad that Jeffries didn't Box Johnson before retiring. Now that might have been the greatest match ever,.

Answer 3

Before Jeffries fought Jack Johnson he was undefeated and a very durable and strong fighter. He was not the same Jeffries when he fought Johnson as before although I still don't believe he would have beat him anyway. Dempsey was a very hard punching fighter and once he got you in trouble you were done. I believe that Jeffries would hold his own for 7 rounds against the Manassa Mauler but Jack would nail him with a right hand in the 8th round and send Jeffries down for the count.

Answer 4

Jeffries - W 18 (KO's 14) TF 21 - W pct 86% - KO pct 67% - wins over P. Jackson, Corbett and Fitzsimmons{2} KO'ed by Jack Johnson

Dempsey - W 65 (KO's 50) TF 82 - W pct 80% - KO pct 61% - wins over Williard, Firpo and Sharkey - KO'ed by Fireman Jim Flynn - #7 ranked puncher - #16 ranked fighter
He later become a referee

Both fighters were great brawlers. Both men fight a to a 15 rd draw.

Answer 5

Jack Dempsey.

Answer 6

Jack Johnson would beat them both. but to answer your question Jack Dempsey.

Answer 7

Dempsey flattens him. Too fast, hardest puncher-exepting Louis-in heavyweight history. Jeffries was too crude and slow.

Answer 8

Both were great fighters, no winner in this one