What position does Islam have on marriages not conducted as per Islamic rites.?

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This can include marriages under new religions also.

I mean does Islam really recognise a hindu, christian, wiccan, mormon etc. marriage.

llona- I mean does Islam really recognise a marriage between a hindu & a hindu, a mormon & mormon etc.

marissa - thanks. but actually I wanted to know what classical Islam have to say on the subject.
You say that marriage is recognised if done within the boundaries of religion, govt., society, parents & morals. Now you can have offshoot religions that recognise live in relationships and treat it as marriage. The parents of the couple would have no problems (as they also follow the same religion), society would have no problems & neither would the govt. So is such a relationship accepted as marriage in Islam.

Well muta is allowed in Shia Islam. I should know as my parents are shia muslims. I remember recently reading an article that something of that sort is also allowed in snni Islam. There was some interpretation to that effect by some religious leaders in Saudi Arabia.
While you have your own views on living together, you will agree with me that Islam is violently opposed to such a thing.
Basically that is my main grouse against Islam- In practice it seeks to impose its own value system by force.

marissa-you would have noticed that muslims have avoided a reply to my question. At the most they have spoken about inter religious marriages even though I have clarified what I mean. You have given your personal opinion but what I wanted was what Islam had to say. Correct me if I am wrong - but answering my own question - In the strict Islamic interpretation - all marriages done without the ritual of the nikah are not recognised in Islam & by Allah. (the exceptions - where the people who have never heard of Islam such as lost tribes in jungles etc.).
This brings us to the next logical question - should such people be stoned to death as they have committed adultery and then there is a question about their illegitimate children.

As regards co-habitation - see there are no absolute truths in the world. Everything has its advantages and disadvantages. Like I told you Islam allows for muta (temporary marriage) which as you know can be for any pre-determined length of time even for say 5 minutes. Is this not free sex which Islam professes to be against?

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well i would like to speak from the pov of Qu'ran and people as far as i know.

Marraiges are arranged and solemnised in Heavens and by God. but in Islam we feel that marraige is just not 2 people brought together -- its 2 families, 2 communities and 2 different souls.
now u take the example of Adam and Eve -- God solemnised their wedding.

any marraige that has been witnessed by 2 families of -- groom and bride and by God with a help of a preist. and it is important that the girl agrees to a marraige -- that is why in Nikkah - they ask the girl first , so that she will not be pressurised by the groom's answer. any marraige is valid if we dont go against the rules and ethics of Religion and Govts and most important parents.

one of my freind married a christian man and she is happy with him, she is a christian now. one my husband's aunt was a christian and now she is a muslim. she was a christian even after marraige but eventually she started learning about Islam and accepted it. and so is one of my Husband's freind's wife. she was a hindu and she is still a hindu. she is intending to become a muslim this friday just before Ramadhan.

everything is lawful if it is done in the limits and boundaries of religion, govts, ethics and morals. thats what i beleive. we all have a free will at the end of the day. i think it is always more reasonable to accept people and their beleifs the way they are. yes why should anyone have a problem if it is done with any religious ritual.

EDIT: Islam is accepting all people of all faith as long as people do good deeds.. but if u break the covenant of descency or ethics and morals, then no religion will accept it.

EDIT: now that is quite difficult. actually i have never seen a "live- in marraige or temprorary marraige" -- as Mut'a is prohibited in Islam and neither have i encountered anyone do that. but i'd also like to add, u have many tribes esp in Africa, where people are completely cut off from the world. most of them are not even more than 15-50 in number. and when u look at their culture they dont have traditions like ours, but they do have rituals to solemnise the wedding. and u can see polygamy too in these tribes. so in case of these tribes TO FLOURISH and propogate their tradition, it is considered ACCEPTABLE -- as i said the marraige of Adam and Eve-pbut is an example of these interbreeding. so what i want to say is that if atleast a small ritual is conducted to solemnise the event its ok.

but marrying and keeping it as a secret or "living together or co-habilitation" to be more precise, without marraige has its own pros and cons. actually i dont think it would be acceptable by ANY religon, and let me repeat ANY religion, but with the perspective of humans -- its quite common n even acceptable in some parts of the world today. see when somebody decides to co-habilitate, they already know its against a religion, so when somebody doesnt bother about religion, its ok , why should religion bother about them?.

see, in Islam actually everybody has freewill and no man should ever actually try imposing their faith and orders on someone else. if u read Surah Al-Kafirun -- it says if u do not beleive in my religion, its fine -- u follow ur religion and i follow mine. Islam wants u to be free and Qu'ran is a Book of Guidance rather than law and order -- a critereon to judge between right & wrong. so Allah says -- I have a given u My Guidance, now its ur wish to follow it or not, but u even have to face the consequences for ur actions. (as it goes -- my actions today will determine my future tomorrow) so when Allah doesnt have a problem, no one on the face of earth should. but let me also add, that there are many more disadvantages than advantages in "co-habilitation" and i think we all are witness to it. it is NOT allowed in Islam but if someone -- muslim or not -- does it then thats there CHOICE. we all have to answer our Lord for our actions on Day of Judgement. so no man should question, to question and judge is God's job -- thats what i beleive.

Answer 2

Yoyodda,
You are mixing religious laws that pertain to "believers" and Shar'iah law (political Islamic law).

Muslims have co-existed with Christians and Jew for centuries even under shari'ah law.
If we are looking from a religious perspective, the marriages of a non-believer to a non-believer would not be recognizied Islamically...because they aren't Muslim. It has absolutely nothing to do with Islamic jurisprudence on marriage.

From a political perspective, under Islamic rule these marriages of non-believers are recognized. They would not be stoned to death.

You are trying to twist two different subjects and put them together here. Islam is a religion for the belivers and the rules apply to them ALONE.

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Islam recognizes marriage of non-Muslims. So, for instance, if two people were not muslim when they got married, and later become Muslim, they are still considered married Islamically. There is a small minority opinion that disagree but there is almost overwhelming agreement that the marriage, any marriage of two non-Muslims, is still considered valid if done according to their rules.

I am sunni. Shia allow temporary marriage, sunni's do not.

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Muslim man can marry non muslim lady

Muslim lady can NOT marry non muslim man

All muslim marriages are mostly done as per islamic laws and rules.

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My non-muslim friend who married a muslim guy, are doing the wedding first in the protestant church, and then after the muslim ritual.The guy is from Pakistan.She will not convert to muslim.

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ISLAM PERMIT TO MAN TO MARRY A CHRISTIAN OR JEWISH WOMAN BUT NOT WOMEN FROM OTHERS RELIGIONS UNTIL SHE CONVERT TO ISLAM(just for a non Jewish and christian woman)

Answer 10

Could you be more specific? What do you mean by pre Islamic?