I am shocked how many people in the parenting section quote the Bible to justify corporal punishment of their children. Are there any religious Christians out there who have a different view of this?
I live in Germany and I really get confused with what I find on this website. There are not many devout Christians in Germany and corporal punishment of children is not at all socially accepted here. Is this really a teaching of Christianity or just an excuse of parents who don't know how to raise their kids in different way?
I know that it is written in the Bible, but the Bible says many things that Christians nowadays don't follow.
2006-09-20 00:22:27 · 10 answers · asked by Elly 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
This quote is taken out of context over and over again. First of all the rod is not in a literal sense a spanking, or a object to punish children. The rod is symbolism meaning "WISDOM".
Psalm 23 "thy rod and thy staff they comfort me"
Extreme opposites of what the people have said over the years about punishing children. If thy rod and staff are a source of comfort in one book of the bible, how can people refer to the rod as a source of punishment for kids. I do not think children would find comfort in being beaten!!
2006-09-20 00:31:16 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 3⤋
Corporal punishment is not necessarily a "Christian" tenet of the faith. It is, however, mentioned as a disciplinary method in the Old Testament (Proverbs) so many use it. I think another reason many conservative Christians use it is not so much that the Bible mentions it, but that it was used effectively in their own lives growing up and people tend to follow the model of their parents.
The problem is that those who are against any form of corporal punishment don't understand how it can properly be used. It's never to be used in anger; it's supposed to be more of a learning opportunity. I personally experienced spankings as a kid where my folks would lovingly sit down with me, have a discusion of what was done wrong, then apply the discipline (they'd hit my bottom til I cried real tears). And guess what? I learned! And I didn't become a violent person as the prognosticators insist will happen (just the opposite, really--I don't even kill bugs!). Heck, when I got older & was given the choice--"do you want to be spanked or do you want to be grounded?"--I chose the spanking every time because it's quick & less painful (groundings are painful in a more emotional way).
2006-09-20 07:28:26 · answer #2 · answered by KDdid 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I have a wonderful 3 year old son who doesn't act up because he knows right from wrong. He is the most well behaved child in his class. The main focus that I emphasized is listening. I use corporal punishment, but very seldom. Because he LISTENS! He does not fear me, and you almost never see him without a smile on his face. That is much better than being yelled at constantly for doing the wrong thing, because the punishment is easy. Am I a bad parent? My happy little boy don't think so.
2006-09-20 07:34:52 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
OUT OF CONTEXT!
Sorry for yelling, but why do people always take that out of context?
" [Ps 89:26, 27; 2 Cor 6:18; Heb 1:5] I will be a father to him and he will be a son to Me; [1 Kin 11:34; Ps 89:30-33] when he commits iniquity, I will correct him with the ROD of men and the strokes of the sons of men.
Prov 19:29; 26:3] a rod is for the back of him who lacks understanding.
He who [Prov 19:18; 22:15; 23:13, 14; 29:15, 17] withholds his rod hates his son,But he who loves him [Deut 8:5; Prov 3:12; Heb 12:7] disciplines him diligently.
Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child;The [Prov 13:24; 23:14] rod of discipline will remove it far from him.
[Prov 13:24; 19:18] Do not hold back discipline from the child,Although you strike him with the rod, he will not die
Proverbs 22:15 (Whole Chapter)
Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.
Proverbs 23:13 (Whole Chapter)
Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
IF you spare the rod, you will spoil the child.
2006-09-20 07:36:25 · answer #4 · answered by leftturnclyde152521 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
...Proverbs 13:24 says this, "He who spares his rod [of discipline] hates his son, but he who loves him disciplines diligently and punishes him early." Please notice that if I spare the rod, I hate my son, but if I love him will discipline him. "Spoiling the child" is not mentioned here.
...You say that "you are shocked how many people in the parenting section quote the Bible to justify corporal punishment of their children." The number of out-of-control kids should shock you even more, and also the parents who have no control over their households. This is serious stuff – if children do not learn self-control and proper behavior at home, then there is a very good chance the state will have to step in later, because you raised a criminal, who will get locked up later in life.
• Have you ever reared any children yourself?
• What is your guidebook for child-raising?
• How will you/do you keep order in your house?
• Are you going to negotiate/cut deals with kids all their lives to get them to behave? How will you handle it when your kid looks you in the face, defies you, is disrespectful, or disobeys you? Bribe them, maybe?
• Will you train them that the world does not revolve around them, and they must become responsible citizens, loving God and others?
• Children must learn at home about obeying the rules, and consequences for disobeying them. How would you teach that?
• You can look to psychology if you wish, but you will find so many different opinions …I also know of two "Family Counselors" who destroyed their own households so they could become "Family Counselors" – a really wrong and skewed picture.
...Yes, we believe the Bible and have used its principles in raising our children. We have 3 children, all are teens (17, 15, and 13). The last spanking I issued might have been three or fours years ago.
...We firmly believe in spanking – that is loving correction. God has put the parents in charge, to raise their kids, and prepare them for life. It is for their good and safety that they must learn to obey. Children will do whatever they are allowed to do; boundaries are good for them.
...We do not abuse at all; a corrective swat on the fanny does wonders with attitude correction, when needed. We spanked for disrespect, disobedience, and defiance. It is part of successfully raising a child. Spanking has been equated with cruelty by some, with child abuse by others, but I challege these people who believe this way to show me the kids they have successfully raised by their methods. On the other hand, I can show you many, many families raised using the principles of Scriptures, and their kids are peaceful, polite, self-controlled, and a joy to have around.
2006-09-20 10:34:41 · answer #5 · answered by carson123 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Look at how society is moving, society says killing your baby is choice, not murder, society says living in sin is a lifestyle choice.
I do on occasion spank my children, not out of anger, out of love. We should not punish our children just because they did wrong but to teach them to do right.
Even my children can understand this, they know that I never won't to harm them, they also know that their is a result that comes from disobedience. My children listen to me so they won't run into the road, they won't stray away into someone elses hands.
Society should learn this lesson, there will come a time when it will answer for it's disobedience. It hurts me when I have to punish my children, I think it hurts God when his children disobey his guidance.
Are you please with how society is going, do you won't your children to "just do it" "have it their way" "live for the day" "be the ME generation""do unto others before they do unto you".
2006-09-20 07:38:51 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
I do my niece is spoiled rotten they don't want to spank her but put her in time e out for 2 1/2 minutes And when they do spank her she cry's SO much its not funny when She falls she starts to fake cry (you can tell its fake because she scrunches her eyes gives out her hand and then Say's kiss it as soon as you do she stops) If they weren't so stupid as to "spare the rod" She wouldn't be beating her cousins or given me cuts that bled for 5 minutes or biting my finger so severely that I had a mark for a month and don't think I'm exaggerating either
I do not think children would find comfort in being beaten!!
That's the point!!! They dont like it so they stop being brats to avoid this. time out dosnt do anything Usally when my neice goes in time out She just takes her clock off her wall and starts to play with it it dosnt do anything
''''''''Look at how society is moving, society says killing your baby is choice, not murder, society says living in sin is a lifestyle choice.
I do on occasion spank my children, not out of anger, out of love. We should not punish our children just because they did wrong but to teach them to do right.
Even my children can understand this, they know that I never won't to harm them, they also know that their is a result that comes from disobedience. My children listen to me so they won't run into the road, they won't stray away into someone elses hands.
Society should learn this lesson, there will come a time when it will answer for it's disobedience. It hurts me when I have to punish my children, I think it hurts God when his children disobey his guidance.
Are you please with how society is going, do you won't your children to "just do it" "have it their way" "live for the day" "be the ME generation""do unto others before they do unto you".''''''''
Finally This is how I feel however the parents love her so much that she has to live a life of luxsary she even has a tv set in her car
2006-09-20 07:29:35 · answer #7 · answered by Someone 2 · 0⤊ 2⤋
sometimes pain is the only thing children will listen to until they get older when phone or TV can be taken away My daughter spanks too. with her kids..If youre away from home spanking can happen in ladies room where they will soon learn not to repeat their horrible behaviour..i see too many parents doing nothing and the kids are running them Its disgusting..
2006-09-20 07:27:41 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Have you seen SuperNanny? Watch a few episodes of that, then tell me what you think of spare the rod, spoil the child.
2006-09-20 07:53:27 · answer #9 · answered by goodfowlkes 2 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Of course!
If you don't you will raise a liberal!
It would be better to raise a Satanist!
2006-09-20 15:04:28 · answer #10 · answered by Grandreal 6 · 0⤊ 2⤋