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You have to be kidding me. You really believe that a zygote knows it's being killed?

2006-09-19 20:22:21 · 20 answers · asked by navytec 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

All of you appearently missed the point of the question. Nothing to do with abortion. It was dealing with stem cell research.

2006-09-19 21:01:35 · update #1

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first lets take a look scientifically. shall we?

ever heard of Genetic experiments and Hybridisation?
from where do u think the sample is taken? oh yes from the very EMBRYO itself. in some cases of where u have to perform organ transplants and grafts -skin and organ, it may be very helpful. esp for cancer or patients also. or to treat children inutero for gentic problems. so where does the sample come from? THE EMBRYO.

when u take a single cell and culture ir from an embryo, then it gives rise to a no;of cell lines. thus the authenticity and individuality of that embryo is lost. so THAT PROVES , ZYGOTES AND EMBRYOS DO HAVE LIFE. as u know most of these would usually be an auto transplant line so in that case they extract the parts of rudimentary liver in fetous inutero. in some cases it may damage the embryo totally. so that means EMBRYO has life.

in most experiments of biotech and genetic engg, they use chick eggs and dont u think, that it is a little mean of us to kill another life to study something? so that means EMBRYOS have life. adult cell lines proliferate very slowly and are at the end or half of their lives. the best most easily, less-faulty and rapidly proliferating stem cells are only obtained from an embryo. the adult stem cells are a little too complex to be cultured and maintained, but this has been used in grafting technique.

now lets look with respect to -- religion.

Dr. Joe Leigh Simpson is the Chairman of the Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Professor of Obstetrics and Gynecology, and Professor of Molecular and Human Genetics at the Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Texas, USA. Formerly, he was Professor of Ob-Gyn and the Chairman of the Department of Ob-Gyn at the University of Tennessee, Memphis, Tennessee, USA. He was also the President of the American Fertility Society. He has received many awards, including the Association of Professors of Obstetrics and Gynecology Public Recognition Award in 1992. Professor Simpson studied the following two sayings of the Prophet Muhammad :

{In every one of you, all components of your creation are collected together in your mother’s womb by forty days...}2

{If forty-two nights have passed over the embryo, God sends an angel to it, who shapes it and creates its hearing, vision, skin, flesh, and bones....}3

2. Narrated in Saheeh Muslim, #2643, and Saheeh Al-Bukhari, #3208.
3. Narrated in Saheeh Muslim, #2645.

He studied these two sayings of the Prophet Muhammad extensively, noting that the first forty days constitute a clearly distinguishable stage of embryo-genesis. He was particularly impressed by the absolute precision and accuracy of those sayings of the Prophet Muhammad . Then, during one conference, he gave the following opinion:

“So that the two hadeeths (the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad ) that have been noted provide us with a specific time table for the main embryological development before forty days. Again, the point has been made, I think, repeatedly by other speakers this morning: these hadeeths could not have been obtained on the basis of the scientific knowledge that was available [at] the time of their writing . . . . It follows, I think, that not only there is no conflict between genetics and religion but, in fact, religion can guide science by adding revelation to some of the traditional scientific approaches, that there exist statements in the Quran shown centuries later to be valid, which support knowledge in the Quran having been derived from God.”

2006-09-19 20:24:12 · answer #1 · answered by marissa 5 · 1 0

Cell are alive of course, but without a developed mind they are not human. They are no different to cells in plants and animals, although their genes may differ slightly. If you count an embryo as a living human being then you also have to count the gametes that formed the embryo, therefore any sperm or egg lost is a waste of a potential life (including all those cells lost during menstruation).

An embryo is not a human until it has developed the capabilities that define us as a human, conscious thought and rationality, and that is not possible until a brain is fully formed.

2006-09-20 03:35:42 · answer #2 · answered by Batgirl182 2 · 0 1

A virus is even smaller and simpler, yet it can result in the deaths of millions.

Size is no indicator of significance.

If a human embryo was somehow discovered on Mars, newspaper headlines all over the earth would proclaim, "Life found on Mars!"

We are having these ridiculous discussions for purely political reasons.

We all know what life is, and when it begins.

Whether anyone knows what's being done to them is irrelevant.

2006-09-20 04:03:50 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

why don't you ask the amoeba your descended from . There are many conceptions but not all attach to the uterus. Many conceptions are flushed out during normal menses. No one aborts a zygote. Blood flows in an embryo after it attaches to the uterus and the umbilical cord is formed (13th day). Check your facts. At what point in your life would you like to suffocate.

2006-09-20 03:38:37 · answer #4 · answered by timex846 3 · 1 0

Why do people get so mad over an embrzygote or whatever... Why not go after the malnurished and beaten kids that are already making right and wrong choices in a life that WE have to live in as well? Those people are going to affect you WAY more than some kid you saved by talking a mother out of aborition or whatever... I mean, come on, there are BIGGER things on the agenda...

By the way, I am not going to read a screen long rant about whatever... sorry - 2 pointsfor you...

2006-09-20 03:42:51 · answer #5 · answered by NappingNinja 2 · 0 1

do u believe that when something has a heartbeat its alive with feelings?

have u actually seen an abortion formed?

its opinions like yours that allow women to get an abortion when they are almost due, do u believe that right before a baby is born have feelings?

regardless how u feel, a baby is a baby is a baby
and its murder and it knows its being killed, watch an actual abortion one day and u will see it too, they look like little dolls most of the time and i believe they have feelings

2006-09-20 03:33:00 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

have you ever been a zygote??? that's your answer!
To kill or not to kill that is the question!

So then tell me how come people have a problem with the war, they're all just evloved zygotes, after all, and some a bad breed as that! Let's just nip it in the bud, for convenience's sake! I just wanna screw around, I don't wanna face the consequences... duh! The world is full of lazy bums who will opt for the easy way out, at someone else's expense...
Define life! Aside from that, judging from your other question your main purpose for life is to get laid! Well them , Mr. Zygote, here you go! Rule of thumb, if you can't tell for sure what it is, you better don't touch it!

Ok, let's define this ....
DEFINITION, ORGANISM: An organism, whether it is single-celled or multi-celled, is a living, autonomous being whose parts are coordinated among themselves and subordinated to the functions of the whole. Any living thing which is not only non-continuous with other matter, but can develop and maintain its own structure and its specifically unique functions, compatible with its degree of maturity, is an organism.

The individual cells of a multi-celled organism, whether somatic (body) cells or reproductive cells, are alive in some sense, but only with the life of the organism. Otherwise the organism would not be an individual living thing, but rather a colony of living things. The somatic cells are never autonomous except, perhaps, when some abnormality such as cancer is involved. They are under the control of the organism. Even when separated from the organism, as in tissue culture, somatic (body) cells, though kept alive and dividing with outside help, never attain the completeness of even the simplest one-celled organism. The reproductive cell of complex animals is also deficient of itself, as is seen in its sole function of fusing with another reproductive cell to form a new organism. And so, it is not within the common understanding of biologists to speak of gametes (reproductive cells) or of cells "in vitro" as being organisms.

It might be difficult to visualize the zygote of a multi-celled species as being an organism. Yet it is an autonomous whole and numerically distinct from its parents. A chicken zygote, in the incubator, in virtue of its own vital forces and under the guidance of its own genetic information uses the materials which it finds available within the confines of the eggshell to initiate, by cell-division and cell-differentiation, its embryonic development. The chicken, in its one-cell, zygotic stage of life is already an organism, however immature it may be at that time. It takes the necessary first step and it takes it in the right direction. Compatible with its small degree of maturity, it manifests individual autonomy and self-sufficiency.
*** too bad I can't underline this.
The current quest of "test-tube" babies is evidence for scientific acceptance of the fact that the zygote, once having been brought into existence, needs the mother only by way of environment. The researcher who brings the gametes together continues his experiment with no other assistance to the resulting zygote than to provide what he considers to be suitable materials for the zygote's use and a suitable environment for the zygote to work in.

In their early development, embryos of such diverse organisms as salamander, chicken and man, possess a similarity of configuration which prompted the axiom: "Ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny." But it is not long before these similarities disappear and new configurations emerge which enable one to identify the specific characteristics of each embryo. Biologists attribute these similarities and subsequent differences to the unique genetic information contained in the chromosomes of each embryo. If the genetic information is different, the structures will develop differently.

2006-09-20 03:25:43 · answer #7 · answered by Pivoine 7 · 0 0

I don't see how it matters if it KNOWS it's being killed. Embryos, zygotes, fetuses... they're all points on the same continuum, a continuum that, left untouched, will result in a living, breathing human being like you and I.

2006-09-20 03:27:11 · answer #8 · answered by . 7 · 1 0

If it had a good blood supply and the proper enviroment it would grow into a baby. Is a baby, when it is born, a human being? Does the age of the baby or the location of the baby make it less human?

2006-09-20 03:28:56 · answer #9 · answered by Godb4me 5 · 1 0

First, you tell me one thing..how is it that anyone can believe that you can take two cells, that are alive, put them together, and come up with something that isn't alive?!!! You have got to be kidding me....that "zygote...embryo"..is a living soul.

2006-09-20 03:26:58 · answer #10 · answered by Judah's voice 5 · 1 0

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