Without using the Bible can you prove he was an actual historical person?
2006-09-19 18:01:59 · 20 answers · asked by Willow S 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Without using the Bible can you prove he was an actual historical person? And instead of just saying yes (or yep) or no, please explain and provide the evidence.
2006-09-19 18:05:08 · update #1
I think they can, cant they?
But can they prove he was actually the son of God, thats another story.
They want you to believe he rose from the dead?
I don't know about that?
2006-09-19 18:05:08 · answer #1 · answered by TG Special 5 · 1⤊ 3⤋
Can you prove He didn't? By the way, read Josephus's writings for one, and Pontius Pilate's report to Rome, which can be found in a book called The Archco Volume, which has some of the old Roman and Jewish documents of the time.
2006-09-20 01:09:31 · answer #2 · answered by Scottish Dachsy 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
There is more historical proof OUTside the Bible than proof that Abe Lincoln ever lived.
Don't take my word for it--do some research. Contact me if you're having trouble finding where to start. It will only be real for you if it's you that is finding out. It's hard to just accept what some guy on Yahoo Answers tells you ;)
2006-09-20 01:05:50 · answer #3 · answered by Josh 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Well considering they did not keep very acurate records back then, but that arguement you can say nobody back then existed. By that if I did not have a drivers license or a birth certificate how could someone prove that I existed? Neither of those were around back then so you get my point.
2006-09-20 01:13:48 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Just as a sort of little excercise playing devil's advocate ironically, riddle me this: without using a spaceship or telescope can you prove that Elysium Mons on Mars exists?
2006-09-20 01:19:19 · answer #5 · answered by Fenris 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The historian Josephus wrote about Him I do believe.
Besides him and the bible there is no big proof. One must have Faith.
2006-09-20 01:08:58 · answer #6 · answered by novagirl117 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Is there historical and scientific proof of Jesus?
It is interesting that when people seek historic and scientific proof of Jesus, they immediately discount the Bible as a reliable source.
If we look at the Bible simply as a historic document, it should be among the most reliable on record compared with others.
Historians routinely cite Herodotus as a key source of information. He wrote from 488 B.C. to 428 B.C. and the earliest copy of his work comes from 900 A.D. (1,300 years later). There are only eight known copies of his work.
By contrast, the New Testament of the Bible (with all its information about Jesus) was written between 40 A.D. and 100 A.D. The earliest known copy is from 130 A.D. and there are 5,000 known copies in Greek, 10,000 in Latin and 9,300 in other languages.
Still, to put to rest the notion that there is no historic and scientific proof of Jesus outside the Bible, we may look to Jewish historian Flavius Josephus and to Roman historian Carius Cornelius Tacitus - both well known and accepted.
Josephus, in the book Jewish Antiquities" wrote:
"At that time lived Jesus, a wise man, if he may be called a man; for he performed many wonderful works. He was a teacher of such men as received the truth with pleasure. . . .And when Pilate, at the instigation of the chief men among us, had condemned him to the cross, they who before had conceived an affection for him did not cease to adhere to him. For on the third day he appeared to them alive again, the divine prophets having foretold these and many other wonderful things concerning him. And the sect of the Christians, so called from him, subsists at this time" (Antiquities, Book 18, Chapter 3, Section 1).
Tacitus, in writing about accusations that Nero burned the city of Rome and blamed it on Christians, said the following:
". . .Nero procured others to be accused, and inflicted exquisite punishment upon those people, who were in abhorrence for their crimes, and were commonly known by the name of Christians. They had their denomination from Christus (Christ, dm.), who in the reign of Tibertius was put to death as a criminal by the procurator Pontius Pilate. . . .At first they were only apprehended who confessed themselves of that sect; afterwards a vast multitude discovered by them, all of which were condemned, not so much for the crime of burning the city, as for their enmity to mankind. . . ." (Tacitus, Annals, 15, 44).
2006-09-20 01:17:56 · answer #7 · answered by Martin S 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yes. Non-Christian historians who lived in the first century mention Him in their Histories. These historians were Josephus and Tacitus. Also, there are other Christian writings from the first century that speak of Him.
2006-09-20 01:04:33 · answer #8 · answered by Dysthymia 6 · 3⤊ 0⤋
Yep!.
Go to Rome Italy - to the Official History of Rome and Italy.
There is MUCH there as to how he changed society in and after HIS life.
The writings of the Jewish Historian Josephus -- not very nice stuff-- but he recorded much,
2006-09-20 01:03:38 · answer #9 · answered by whynotaskdon 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Here is a site that has historical evidence of Jesus: http://www.jesusfactorfiction.com/answer.php?historical_evidence
2006-09-20 01:08:10 · answer #10 · answered by Gestalt 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yes, it is actually already proven by historians that he was, in fact, a real person.
2006-09-20 01:06:10 · answer #11 · answered by danielle 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋