Who thinks AA is crap?

Question

I do everyone quits drinking to smoke 40 cigerettes a day which is probably even worse!

Get mad if you want but smoking can be even worse than drinking. And I've never seen more smoking than at AA meetings! It amuses me that they a all hype about not drinking but say nothing about smoking. Funny thing my uncle had a heart attack they told him quit drinking not smoking so go figure!

Answer 1

i agree that smoking is probably worse than drinking, but you don't have to smoke 40 cigarettes a day after quiting alcohol. my friend quit drinking and smoking after 20 years (cold turkey) when he found out he was going to be a daddy. That was 7 years ago, and he hasn't gone back since.

Answer 2

I actually quit smoking after I became involved in AA. Most of the people I got sober with quite also.

To address if 'AA is crap' - AA has become ineffective as treatment for a most problem drinkers. This is largely due to treatment centers and counselors adopting a pseudo-12step approach to their treatment and implying a connection to AA. Courts have contributed greatly to this problem by "ordering" people to AA and therefor implying a association with AA.

AA should be a "last ditch effort" after all other psychological and medical treatments have been tried.

I would encourage our 'enthusiastic' AA-bashers to petition treatment centers to switch to a non-12step approach to alcoholism and drug addiction. That would be a much more effective approach.



Cheers!

Answer 3

In many parts of the country, you can't smoke in meetings anymore, but AA is still crap.

People trying to quit drinking through AA are four times as likely to end up binge drinking as those who attempt quitting on their own, four times as likely to end up DEAD (George Valliant studies) and both have a 5% success rate:
http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-effectiveness.html

I don't need to make things up about AA, the most damning statistics come from their own Triennial Survey and studies conducted by George Vaillant, member of AA Board of Trustees and Harvard researcher.

Answer 4

AA is for Quitters... I was always told, If your going to start something, Follow through on it. So, Until your liver and lungs are black and falling out of your body, Carry on Soldier :)

Answer 5

I don't know if it's crap, but my accountant got arrested for beating the life out of his AA sponsor in a drunken rage.

So in the totality of things, I would question its effectiveness.

Answer 6

yeah man, like uh knew this chic met her online you know, like she was in AA and like she's STILL HOOKED on sh*t ya know, taking pain meds, getting high and stuff, like man you know she is so wierd, I show up at a meetin and dey all gay and smoking cigarettes and stuff. Either it's the liver dat will go or da lungs, take yo pick man. Sheeit. I wait to talk to someone, and dey all greet each otha with this look, and one guy tells me he's bisexual. I like maaaannn whut you tell me that for? Anyway, this chic is ADICTED to sh*t like chocolate, ate two friggin bags of kit kats in one night, had a gay best friend female. Could tell something was up with dat. Wouldn't know what loyalty was if you wrote it in big letters and waved in her face. you know whut uh mean?

Answer 7

There is nothing wrong with people going to aa, if they follow the steps, are ready to be totally honest with themselves and keep going to meetings then it will work for them.

Answer 8

That bullsh!t that you people who just need to find a reason to bash AA come up with, and you know its bullsh!t.

Report me for calling you the base liar you are.

Answer 9

go to morerevealed.com or google 'orange papers', learn what AA is really all about.