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Ok Christian brethren...

The Bible states clearly that there is no hell as a place.

I challenge you to find me a Bible verse stating that non-believers go to a firey eternal damnation where they suffer forever. Find me a Bible verse describing hell as horrible place where the non-believers go.

The Bible also states that NO MAN will be judged until the end times. No one is judged till the end.

Is it more possible that all human souls, good and bad, are waiting in Sheol (LIKE THE BIBLE SAYS THEY ARE?) until the end times?

So why are you all saying that your gonna die and *poof* go to heaven or hell?

Finally, why are you all trusting the word of God that has been altered by man?

Stop using the NIV and the KJV... books that have been changed officially at least FIVE TIMES since the death of Christ.

WHY AREN'T YOU QUESTIONING YOUR FAITH AND THE MEN WHO ARE WRITING YOUR BIBLES AND GIVING YOU "THEIR" WORD OF GOD??

JESUS DID.

2006-09-19 13:35:07 · 6 answers · asked by the nothing 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

You can't quote from the NIV! YOU are proving my point! You are using the words of God, changed by man...

Quote with proof from the ancient texts that have been translated and therein you will find your answer.

2006-09-19 13:43:15 · update #1

lol, I'm not angry... caps just work well to highlight points in large groups of text... But I am quite passionate about how the world is being misled

2006-09-19 13:45:23 · update #2

I am using the New Jerusalem Bible, it was translated from directly from the Dead Sea Scrolls, they are 1800 years old.

2006-09-19 13:46:23 · update #3

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Time is not an element of the Spiritual realm.

Time itself was part of God's creation. Peter wrote that everything in that creation would be destroyed. We are still here "bound" by time. Those who have died are no longer bound by it.

2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slow to keep his promise. He is not slow in the way some people understand it. He is patient with you. He doesn’t want anyone to be destroyed. Instead, he wants all people to turn away from their sins. 10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar. Fire will destroy everything in them. God will judge the earth and everything in it. 11 So everything will be destroyed. And what kind of people should you be? You should lead holy and godly lives.

"Everything will be destroyed." Twice Peter writes this. This section of 2nd Peter is in clear, simple language and tells us that Jesus' return will be sudden and unexpected. The passages in the Apocalypse were NOT WRITTEN to tell us about Jesus' return, but to tell the Christians living near the end of the first century that their suffering persecution would be short, that Jesus would rescue them from their persecutors SOON. (Note the Greek phrase, "en tachei" in 1:1 and 22:6. Typically translated, "happen soon," the phrase relates things in the near future, NOT MILLENIA AWAY. The same phrase was used when the angel released Peter from his prison cell in Acts 12:7. It is nonsensical to interpret the Apocalypse without considering the context in which it was written and the situation of its recipients.

... The kjv contains so many deliberate mistranslations as to make it an obstacle to the truth rather than a source of it. The "Dead Sea Scrolls" contain no New Testament texts. They were, in some cases, written many years before Christ - Some with C14 dating and script analysis placing them around 150 B.C... The newest specimens were written during the apostle's lifetime.

The actions of man do not change Biblical truth. I know that there were about 20 revisions of the kjv between the 1611 release and the commonly used edition called kjv. There were a few minor changes in footnotes and text in the NIV... how do you come up with "changed officially at least FIVE TIMES?"

As for the latest revision of Jerusalem Bible, Where/How do you come up with "I am using the New Jerusalem Bible, it was translated from directly from the Dead Sea Scrolls, they are 1800 years old."
1. The scrolls are 1940 to 2150 years old, give or take a few years.
2. They had SOME impact on the translation, but were not the direct source documents as you claim.
3. Since there were no New Testament documents there, how do you explain the New Testament in NJB?

... You really need to learn some simple theology before trying to carry on this conversation for which you have proven yourself unfit. Please study and attempt to ask intelligent questions rather than trying to baffle the uninformed.

2006-09-19 13:38:47 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

People who do this are not trusting in the word of God but in the word of Robert Schiller, Joyce Meyer, Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Baker and lots of other "authorities"

2006-09-19 13:37:57 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Are you no longer conscious that people who placed themselves below the old testomony rules have fallen from grace? no one, actually no one will pay the Biblical tithe today. Leviticus 27:30-33, Numbers 18: the 1st Tithe - a 10th of vegetation and animals and commanded to take the tithe to the Levites. Deuteronomy 14:22-27: the 2nd Tithe aka The pageant Tithe - a 10th of vegetation, plus upload to that the firstborn animals, and take for the annual dinner party. Deuteronomy 14:28-29: The 0.33 Tithe aka the three-365 days Tithe aka The undesirable Tithe - a 10th of vegetation, stored at homestead, and invite the Levites, widows, orphans, stranger to eat. Now, tell me. Which of the above 3 tithes commanded with the aid of God do you stick to? None of them! Tithing ended on the go consistent with Hebrews 7:5,12,18. we are below a greater effective covenant. the recent testomony teaches beneficiant, sacrificial giving, from the heart, in accordance to our means. For some, $one million may well be a sacrifice, on a similar time as for others, even giving 50% of their earnings will possibly no longer set off a sacrifice. interior the old testomony, in user-friendly terms the farmers tithed, and it grew to become into equivalent share (a 10th). the recent testomony teaches the belief of equivalent sacrifice fairly of equivalent share. equivalent sacrifice is a lot greater durable to realize, if no longer impossible, than giving ten %. old testomony - the 1st OF THE end result ought to circulate to GOD Proverbs 3:9 (KJV) “Honour the LORD with thy substance, and with the firstfruits of all thine advance:” NEW testomony - the worker must be FIRST TO obtain A share OF THE FRUIT 2 Timothy 2:6 (KJV) “The husbandman that laboureth could desire to be first partaker of the end result.” while grew to become into the final time you heard a pastor say so you might spend the 1st area of your earnings on your self and your loved ones? one million Timothy 5:8 (KJV) “yet while any furnish no longer for his own, and in specific for those of his own residence, he hath denied the religion, and is worse than an infidel.” the recent testomony makes it sparkling that we are to apply the 1st of our earnings to shield ourselves and our relatives. we are speaking approximately desires, right here, no longer in user-friendly terms something we want. Then we could desire to constantly supply generously from what's left.

2016-10-15 04:42:55 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Revelation 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Matthew 25:45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: 44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. 45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: 46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. 47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: 48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

2006-09-19 13:39:41 · answer #4 · answered by Martin S 7 · 0 0

Two words.....calm down. Also, search for God with all your heart and strength, you will find Him.

2006-09-19 13:40:45 · answer #5 · answered by NOIZE 4 · 0 0

What bible are you using as your source? Back up what you say, or what you say is worthless.

2006-09-19 13:43:54 · answer #6 · answered by WHITE TRASH ARMENIAN 4 · 0 0

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