I rather like the pope's "non-apology". He regrets and is very sorry over the Muslim reaction to remarks made by a 14th century ruler whom he quoted anecdotally. It was incumbent upon the pope to respond to racous Muslims, and he did. He made a statement of empathy for Muslims who are easily upset. Let us reflect on how difficult life must be for Muslims to be consumed with hatred and revenge.
It would be far more challenging to write the speech that the pontilff will deliver in Turkey, than to write any sort of retraction for the benefit of Muslims or for mettle-lacking non-Muslims.
2006-09-18 17:20:07
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answered by Anonymous
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You're obviously a hater and like to invent lies and spread misinformation, so I'll just correct some of your will full mistakes.
Muslims do not love, like or support the Nazis, nor do we condone the use of violence. Islam is a peaceful religion which has only a small number of true followers. The are peaceful and tolerant people.
It's a shame that Muslim "leaders" would encourage any type of violence against anyone else. The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said that towards the end times, there would be an increase of ignorance amongst the Muslims until one day, the Qur'an will be removed from this Earth. Then, people in general will return to barbaric behavior and will soon forget about God too. When no one on Earth remembers that there is One God, God will destroy the Earth. It's a pretty crazy world we live in.
peace
2006-09-18 17:12:20
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answered by Mustafa 5
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i've got not got self belief you're being honest. i've got stumbled on liberals to be people who often hotel to censorship tries while their fallacies are puzzled, like this censorship attempt I won in an email this morning from a liberal who responded this "question" and calls himself Bush Lied tens of millions Died: "Message: you're a valueless piece of ****. thankfully for actual human beings like myself you valueless products of **** have no means what so ever. once you progression out of your mothers and fathers homestead and get a actual pastime you will understand how issues artwork interior the actual worldwide. Now wipe the spuge off your face and close the **** up!" As you are able to for sure see, this liberal hates freedom of speech, as do all the liberals i've got seen shouting down conservatives at countless college campuses. Your inference that Conservatives are predominantly people who hate freedom of speech is laughable. and that i in simple terms observed which you do no longer enable human beings to deliver you emails. that's being a sprint a hypocrite...
2016-10-15 03:53:31
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answered by ? 4
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"I would like to address every single Muslim and tell you that I am sorry. I have forgotten how much we have in common with each other. You too, should think about the times we have shared over the years, and that we are all from the same non-existent concept of God. Hey, we can't even decide if God is Jesus and Jesus is God and the Holy Spirit, or If God is God, Jesus is the Son of God, and the Holy Spirit is the... oh forgive me, my feeble old mind hasn't been the same ever since I was a young Nazi youth.
I have watched many of my men kill in the name of our God and i have seen many of you do the same. We have been fighting for years but all of the time it took to try and get past that by claiming it wasn't real Christians that did it will be wasted. I made the mistake of exposing my honest and biblical belief that you are all heathens that deserve to die.
I will now read a scripture from my faithful bible," "If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him.” Deut.13:7-12
"See, it isn't just you that i would kill in the name of my God, but my own family. If I had a wife I would kill her too if she became a Muslim or any other religion besides Christianity. So lets not forget that we are one in the same. I made the mistake of exposing Christianity for the hateful and judgmental religion that it actually is, and I'm sorry for that. I had planned to keep people deluded into thinking that it was all love, flowers, and forgiveness. I'm sorry that Jesus didn't die for your sins; however you have the prophet Muhammad.
In the end we are all warriors, we will battle till the death. I respect you commitment to your religion and you are willing to die in the name of your God. We don't need that sort of dedication because Jesus died for us. But we will all enjoy our afterlives, well I will enjoy your 40 virgins in heaven; while you enjoy blowing yourselves up in balls of fire in hell."
2006-09-18 17:01:28
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answered by Anonymous
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By Fr. John Zuhlsdorf
The Holy Father gave his Angelus address today at Castlegandolfo. At the beginning he departed from his text many times to console those present who were being treated to heavy rain.
The press reacted instantly, stating that the Pope apologized. However, if you listen to what he said (http://www.wdtprs.com/media/audio/06_09_17_ANGELUS_snip.mp3), he did not.
Let’s look at the Italian and figure out what the Pope really said (which was broadcast live by Al-Jazeera, among others).
Yes, he spoke of the reaction of muslims to his address in Regensburg. He said that he was "vivamente rammaricato" ... "deeply regretful" about the reactions resultings over his use of a brief medieval text which, he stressed, did not express, in any way, his personal opinion of muslims. He underscored that he was citing a medieval text.
Benedict said that Card. Bertone, the new Secretary of State stated already the "real sense" ("autentico senso") of his words. He hoped that people would pay attention to what he actually said. He added that what we need is frank and sicnere dialog with great reciprocal respect. He said that the whole text was and is an invitation to dialog.
"Sono vivamente rammaricato per le reazioni suscitate da un breve passo del mio discorso all’Universita di Ratisbona, ritenuto offensivo per la sensibilita dei credenti musulmani."
Benedict did not use the stronger phrase "chiedere scusa", or "apologize". He did not use the construction "mi sono rammaricato" (rammaricarsi) , which would have meant "I am sorry about" something. He used "vivamente rammaricato" or "deeply sorry" but in the sense of "regretful" or "disappointed" about the reactions following his speech. In fact, the phrase "sono vivamente rammaricato per le reazioni" could really mean "I am deeply wounded by the reactions". [UPDATE: The official English translation released after the fact says: "I am deeply sorry for the reactions"]
It is true that he distanced himself from that text. He said that Paleologus’s words were not his sentiments. You can say that this was an apology if you add all the elements together, but …. there it is. It won’t be enough, of course, for many (for the "thick"). It can be interpreted as an apology and, in a sense, it MUST be. There are in Islamic countries Christian communities in grave peril. Had the Pope not said something like this, those people would be in even greater danger. He had to apologize without apologizing while keeping his agenda on the table.
He added some additional insightful comments about the liturgical feasts of the Exaltation of the Cross and of the Sorrowful Mother. He added that the scandel of the Cross, considered a foolishness to the pagans, helps man to overcome slavery to sign. The Cross, symbol of death and of love, defeats hatred and violence and generates eternal life. In the hype about the comments at Regensburg, don’t forget to read everything Benedict said about the meaning of the Cross for our own sufferings. It was wonderful.
I was very pleased that His Holiness did not grovel over this. Indeed, his words in German to the German pilgrims were rather poignant in his reference to suffering in difficult situations.
The upshot of today’s address was: "Read the whole text and then let’s have a real discussion based on what I really said, not based on a brief citation I used in the speech."
He said he would speak more at length during his upcoming Wednesday audience.
In the meantime, Corriere della Sera (http://www.corriere.it/Primo_Piano/Cronache/2006/09_Settembre/17/papa.shtml) rushed to put on its website that the Pope "apologized" ... "il Papa chiede scusa" ... to muslims. Well… yes and no.
Of course, the reaction of the press and muslim world underscores the point the Pope made in Regensburg. Christians are not treated fairly by muslims, violence is used against them, and reason is not employed. The Pope wanted to bring the use of violence (read "jihad") onto the table. Muslims cannot critically examine their own texts, as Christians do. Real theological dialog with muslims is not possible. Benedict stated that Islam thinks that Allah can be contradictory, which is absolutely different from Christian thought about God. But more on that later.
In the meantime, the muslim goverment in Sudan is committing genocide at Darfur.
Source: http://wdtprs.com/blog/2006/09/benedict-did-not-grovel-during-his-angelus-address/
http://www.surprisedbytruth.com
2006-09-18 17:08:09
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answered by Anonymous
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TO THE ASKER NOT POPE-- if u dont like something -- just forget it ad walk off. there is no reason for u to bad mouth.
actually it shows about ur upbringing -- maybe ur parents taught u but u didnt bother to learn anything about manners.
my english teacher always used to tell us-- people without self-respect will never care to respect others. and today i see u as a perfect example. u proved it right.
i feel sorry for u -- u seem to be carrying too much hate in ur heart. i advice u as a good freind -- dont have so much hate and contempt -- it usually keeps growing and finally consumes the very person carrying it. u will end up finally with both health and social problems. take care of urself, brother.
the Pope could have qouted what people like --
Thomas Carlyle in 'Heroes and Hero Worship and the Heroic in History,' 1840
Mahatma Gandhi, a statement published in 'Young India,'1924.
Dr. William Draper in 'History of Intellectual Development of Europe
W. Montgomery Watt in 'Muhammad(saaw) at Mecca,' Oxford, 1953.
K. S. Ramakrishna Rao in 'Muhammad(saaw): The Prophet of Islam,' 1989
Jules Masserman in 'Who Were Histories Great Leaders?' in TIME Magazine, July 15, 1974
Gibbon in 'The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' 1823
2006-09-18 16:59:26
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answered by marissa 5
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Very creative, and funny in parts, but your attempt at humor serves little purpose other than continuing to condemn billions of Muslims because of the actions of a few idiots.
I've read some answers tonight that have implied that the pope is an idiot because all Catholics are idiots. That makes as much sense as the anti-Muslim comments you and others have been making.
Learn to respect others that are different than you. The world is a much more enjoyable place to live in when you do so.
peace
2006-09-18 16:51:48
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answered by Colin 5
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You are such an idiot, just go ON spreading hate, now is the time for Islam he he you are finished with Christian's
I would say , you are the one who is responsible for all the hate and misery , and we should send you to the moon, and look at the mirror , i think you wouldn't like what you see, or you are stupid.
2006-09-18 16:53:39
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answered by santa s 4
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How adorable.
"To those who are non-violent Muslims: I am sorry that my words were misconstrued to imply that all of Islam is violent. I was merely referring, as an example, to the subsect of Muslims who are, in fact, violent (see reactions to speech and below).
To those who are violent in any religion, see the quote in my original speech (to paraphase: violence in the name of religion is irrational as it goes against what God would want. You need to be more productive in your religious endeavors - like us fabulous Catholics)."
RAmen
2006-09-18 16:56:17
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answered by Phoenix, Wise Guru 7
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"Please accept my apologies for daring to claim that Islam was based on violence. I can now see from your ever-so-peaceful response to my statements that I was wrong. May we Christians learn from you Muslims how to be so peaceful."
2006-09-18 16:52:54
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answered by Developing Love 3
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