If something is morally wrong - don't we as Christians and moral people have a duty to speak up against it?

Question

Gays
Abortions
Divorce (without trying to make it work)
Premarital sex
Drug use

Why do some people get so offended and say we HATE other people when we are just standing our moral ground and saying these things are bad.

We used to say that profiling (pc crowd) was wrong until Arab men started blowing us up. Now it is ok to look at them a little closer.

You tell your children NO - are these adults who can't be told NO just immature?

Texas T - YES!

Answer 1

we do have a moral duty to speak up. guess that's why i don't have too many friends because i don't go with the flow. i try to stand up for what i believe in. but then, the Bible says we are to be strange, so I guess I'm exactly what I'm suppose to be.

we don't hate other people; we hate what they stand for.

Answer 2

This is a very good and also a very loaded question.

I will attempt to give an answer, but it probably won't be complete.

There is a time for everything, a season for every activity under heaven. Ecc 3:1 NLT

"If something is morally wrong - don't we as Christians and moral people have a duty to speak up against it?"

That all depends on the situation.

"Gays"

I don't remember Jesus ever bashing anyone in the Bible except thieves and Pharisees, (because they were hypocrites ) and yet I have heard many of my Christian brothers and sisters bashing people who don't deserve it.

Homophobia and bashing is a sin. Yes, I think I should speak out against homophobia and bashing because many beautiful people and innocent children have been hurt by it.

"Abortions" I am pro life and am against abortion. However I am not God. I do not have a right to tell others what to do. I can't judge anyone for being pro choice. It bothers me when abortion is used for birth control but I can't look down on anyone who does it.

"Divorce (without trying to make it work), Premarital sex, Drug use"

Again, there are no easy answers, however I do not have a right to tell others how to behave.

I wish people would stop thinking about the speck of wood in another person's eye when they have a tree sticking out of their own head.

Unhealed codependency can lead to sin. There are so many problems in the "Body of Christ" that are not being discussed that I do not understand the need to bash others.

If we spent our Sunday mornings talking about our own problems, sins and immoral behaviors we could be in church all week.

I can't speak for all people but there are some people who get offended and say we HATE other people because we do not practice love or what the Bible says if we pick the subjects of our sermons based on the sins we do not practice. How often have you heard a Christian who bashes tell you about the sins they just got through doing? I have never heard of that.

What if we all "stand our moral ground" and only say what we do that is bad. Wouldn't that be refreshing?

I can't think of how profiling can ever be right.

I do not understand your last question.

I know this is not a complete answer but this is such a hard subject. Thanks for asking this.

I want to be humble, thinking of others as better than myself. That is my prayer for me.

Answer 3

All of the above are individual choices that people make. I am sure that the consenting adults involved are aware of the consequences of their behavior and are prepared to deal with them. It is not up to us to interfere unless we are asked to.
Children are what they are, children. They are minors. They can't vote and are subject to the authority of adults, specifically their parents or guardians. This is still a delicate area as some parents or guardians may not want you trying to impose YOUR values on THEIR children. As far as adults, I can't speak for all adults but at 43 years old, I don't need another mother. I have a mother and a mother in law. Neither one imposes their values on me but they will help me and advise me when I ask for it.
Profiling IS wrong. It is something that paranoid closed minded folks like you use to rid your communities of people and lifestyles that you know nothing about. I have been profiled before. I am a white man married to a black woman. Some months ago we had a cop pull us over because my rear license plate light was out. The cop separated us and asked us where we were going and how we knew each other. Did this ever happen to you and your husband??? Probably not.
I am not offended by your beliefs, I am offended by the way some of you express them. You come off with an attitude like you are better than the rest of us and talk to us like children. I am not your child!!!!
Besides, Isn't God to determine what happens to me in the after life? If I seek his forgiveness for my sins, won't it be given to me. I don't know, this is what I as taught.

Answer 4

I don't claim you hate when you say you don't agree. I say you hate when you turn those impositions into laws to be observed by EVERY human being, Christian or otherwise. If you don't want to divorce and remarry, then fine. Don't. But don't expect the rest of the world to do the same. Freedom of religion isn't about attending the church or temple you consider the right one. Freedom of religion is about acting on it in every single aspect of your life, as long as it doesn't affect other people's rights. And my right to divorce, or to marry another man, or to have sex with either a man or a woman before marrying, or to use drug, or to take my girl to an abortion clinic if her life is at stake, does not affect your right. It only affects your view of how things should be. Well, I'm sorry, but I have other views, and we both should have the same rights.

Or else, let's call this a religious dictatorship once and for all and let's state that the law of God should be passed by all the parliaments in the world, and let's start the discussion from there.

Answer 5

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Answer 6

Your right those things are bad! But that is not the point.The point how you treat the people YOU see as immoral! We are not to judge. We ALL sin. One sin is no greater or less than the other! As Christians we should love our neighbor not condemn and judge them, we are NOT God. Only He can judge and condemn. Maybe you should look a little closer at yourself and not these other "immoral" people. Each person will one day have to answer for themselves. Stop trying to save everyone, you can't only God can save people!

Answer 7

I have no problem with the fact that YOU think it's wrong. Ok, fine. What I have a problem with is when people such as yourself deicde to push your beliefs, values (although I never considered hate, bigotry or intolerance a value), down on others.

Let's agree to disagree, and that adults have the right to make their own choices in life. Someone's private life is their buisness, not yours! If you believe the above things you mentioned are wrong, fine DON'T DO ANY OF THEM.

Answer 8

What makes you think that you've cornered the market on 'morality'? That's kind of arrogant... and very much off target. Meditate on this for a little while. Christians make up about 75% of the US population and 75% of the US prison population. No big surprise there.

Atheists, on the other hand, make up about 10% of the US population... but they only make up 0.2% of the US prison population. Now, isn't THAT a surprise? That means that atheists are FIFTY (50) times LESS LIKELY to be incarcerated than Christians. Pretty strange, huh, for a group that has no god-given guiding moral principals?

I can think of only two possibilities that might reasonably be said to account for this discrepancy:

1. Atheists are of a higher ethical and moral caliber than Christians, and thus are less prone to do the same kinds of nasty things that land so many Christians in the slammer;

OR,

2. Atheists are, overall, a lot smarter than Christians and thus, they are less likely to get caught in the course of their transgressions.

It's GOT to be one or the other... take your pick.

Answer 9

Judge not and you will not be judged/

For each time that you judge Me someone else is judging you/

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone/

First check out the beam in your eye, before pointing out the splinter in your brothers..

Don't you let the system make you kill your brotherman..

Free your mind and the rest will follow.. Really try and get home and from there you can help the rest way better. Climb the ladder of consciousness// Unite do not divide. We are all One. One Love One Heart. Take your place in His Heart// Pointing out what is good or bad is NOT the way..

Love

Answer 10

yes, you are right- when it comes to respecting others beliefs- those that scream tolerance the loudest seem to be the most intolerant. It comes from a fale definition of tolerance and twisting the facts to fit an agenda.
I don't hate anyone- I will not treat anyone as less of a person or disrespectful in any way no matter who they are , what they choose to believe and how they choose to live. I will not however lower my standards and I will not tolerate sin. I will not tolerate making excuses for what god calls an abomination. I will not tolerate this in myself- as I am not perfect, I fail and I have to be accountable for it - and I will not tolerate it in others. Yes, I love you and respect you , but no, I will not tolerate the sin, I will not make excuse for it and I will not say that it is okay or stop speaking out against sin.
It is nothing more than immature pride, rebellion and defiance that would get offended and bent out of shape just because I say that homosexuality is wrong- so is abortion, sex outside of marriage, drug use etc. I would treat anyone in these sins with respect and the love of Christ but I will not say that it is okay- the behavior is sin- period!

Answer 11

All moral people have the social obligation to speak out against what is wrong. The problem is, we don't agree that these things are necessarily wrong. What is wrong is for you to try to force your point of view on people who don't share it. As for why we say you hate...have you ever been to an anti-abortion rally and heard the things those people say? Or read abortion doctors being killed for what they believe in? I have, and those things meet my definition of hate. Blacklisting people, forcing them out of your church or family because you think divorce is wrong--that meets my definition of hate. My grandparents turned their back on my mother--called her a sinner and an adultress because her husband divorced her after years of cheating on her and she dared to remarry. Now my sister is married to an emotionally abusive jerk who is teaching her children terrible things but she is afraid to divorce him for fear of getting the same treatment. That sounds like hate to me. The Old Testament (which Christians believe is the word of God) says that homosexuals and witches are to be killed outright. Sounds like hate to me. I personally don't see anything wrong with premarital sex; I think it would save a lot trouble in marriages if the couple had a little more experience before joining themselves together for life. People should be educated about the consequences of sex and not led to believe that it is something to be ashamed of so that they hide it and don't do what they need to to be safe for fear of being found out. Instead, Christians think that if they just ignore sex, no one will ever think about it. Unfortunately, they are wrong and instead of a society of ignorant celibate people, we get ignorant people spreading disease and unwanted pregnancy. That doesn't sound good to me.
I think that trying to tell me I can't do something just because you don't like it is what's immature and wrong.