A twist on "are Muslims tolerant"?

Question

In another question I had I asked this question:

Are Muslims "tolerant"?
Don’t be fooled by the "tolerant" face of Muslims you meet in the Western world today. Islam has historically developed in four stages:
1. Evangelism.
2. Consolidation of power.
3. Revolution
4. Islamic State.
Muslims would love to see Canada and the USA become Islamic states but are only at stage one: Evangelism! Islam has not changed its methods since Muhammad 1400 years ago. Muslims are tolerant, when they are powerless, but this veneer of toleration evaporates when an Islamic state is formed.

This makes total sense to me. Anyone else understand and believe what is being said here?

MY QUESTION:

Some answered and said I was hyprocritical because the same applied to Christians.

Do others agree with that? I say NO! I am not a Christian living in an Islamic state (or mostly Islamic if there is such a thing) pretending I am tolerant of their religion.

Answer 1

I understand. I live in SE Michigan which used to have the highest concentration of Muslims outside the Middle East (now that is California). I think tolerance is anathema to Muslims.

The violence of terrorism is integral to Islam. To criticize the terrorists is anathema. Terrorists are revered. Those who participate in jihad and warfare for the cause of Allah with their lives and their wealth have the highest status in Islam according to the Qur'an.

Among Muslims there are those who:
a) jihad in the path of Allah with their wealth and their lives (including those who sit at home but give asylum to mujahidin 8:74) = true Muslim
b) those who sit at home (and do not give asylum to mujahidin or jihad in the path of Allah)
c) the handicapped (does not count as a category)

According to the Qur'an who is a true believer?

2:244 Fight for the cause of Allah, and know (for sure) that Allah is all-Hearing, and all-Knowing.

3:140 If you have sustained a wound, _ (a blow in the battlefield) _ others too have suffered a similar kind of wound, earlier. These are the vicissitudes of life that We circulate among mankind by turns. Thus, Allah tests the true believers among you, so He may pick the martyrs among you. Allah does not like the wrongdoers.

4:95 The two are not equal: those who sit at home (and do not join the fighting) _ unless they have a reason; they are handicapped _ and those who [jihad] strive hard in the path of Allah with their wealth and lives. Over those who sit at home, Allah has excelled and elevated to a higher honor those who strive hard with their wealth and lives.
Compared to those who sit at home, Allah will award a far greater reward to those who wage a struggle.

8:74 Those who believed, left their homes and waged a struggle for the cause of Allah as well as those who helped and protected them are really the true believers. There is forgiveness for them and a generous rewards.

9:20 According to Allah, far higher in rank are those who believed, left their homes and waged a struggle with their wealth, and their lives. Such are the successful ones!

49:15 The (true) believers are actually those who believe in Allah and His messenger and then do not waver (and do not entertain doubts). With their wealth and their lives, they strive for the sake of Allah. Such are truly the sincere ones

9:86 As soon as a chapter (of the Qur’an) is revealed (instructing them), “Believe in Allah and wage a struggle along with His messenger” the able bodied (and well to do) among them ask to be exempted. They say, “Leave us (behind). Let us be among those who sit at home

Killing (qitl) and jihad in the cause of Allah is the hallmark of true Muslim believers. It is not a matter of moderate or fanatic. It is the distinction of a true believer or a rebel.

4:76 Those who believe, do fight for the sake of Allah, while those who reject faith (Islam) fight for the cause of ‘taghut’ _ (all rebellious forces aligned against Allah). So, fight against the minions of Shaitan. Feeble indeed is the wily guile of Shaitan!

Islam is insidious, it encroaches on a culture slowly and deliberately. Here is a document which discusses the progression of Islam in great detail (50+ pages) -- "From dawa to jihad - the various threats from radical Islam to the democratic legal order":
http://www.fas.org/irp/world/netherlands/dawa.pdf

Answer 2

Your point is that Muslims aren't tolerant because of the reasons you state. But at the same breath are you claiming the tolerance of your religion by casting down another? That is hypocritical. No you do not live in an Islamic state. But you live in a country in which most of the inhabitants are Christian. And you (like the Intolerant Muslims you cite) are showing your intolerance of another religion. So yeah, you are a hypocrite.

Edit: bigez3804
No the founders of this country weren't devout Christians. They were deists, and they purposefully wrote a Constitution that was religiously neutral because the majority of the colonists were escaping religious persecution.

Answer 3

It's called pack mentality, once they are the majority, they will do what they are doing now. I find it laughable when people say that we Christians are the same or that we are dangerous because we want a theocracy. This is hysteria thanks to a bunch of idiotic preachers on TV. If they would read about the founding fathers of this nation, they were overwhelmingly devout Christians, especially George Washington, so then, why didn't they start a theocracy there and then? We don't want a theocracy, we want morality and ethics to rule our country, stop killing unborn children like they were rodents, stop plastering porn all over the movies and magazines, our leaders refuse to vote for the right thing for the country and instead vote for the right thing to get them re-elected, and so forth.

Answer 4

Indonesia

Answer 5

genuine Islam is ordinary and accompanied by the single that prefer it. in case you recommend get the fact to the west and europe. then hun they are trying even though it extremely is falling to deaf ears reason no person desires to hearken to the media wanna teach how undesirable islam quite is.

Answer 6

Muslim tolerance: Oxymoron.

Answer 7

what the HELL are u talking about. ur talking bull ****.