Don’t be fooled by the "tolerant" face of Muslims you meet in the Western world today. Islam has historically developed in four stages:
1. Evangelism.
2. Consolidation of power.
3. Revolution
4. Islamic State.
Muslims would love to see Canada and the USA become Islamic states but are only at stage one: Evangelism! Islam has not changed its methods since Muhammad 1400 years ago. Muslims are tolerant, when they are powerless, but this veneer of toleration evaporates when an Islamic state is formed.
This makes total sense to me. Anyone else understand and believe what is being said here?
2006-09-18 12:32:12 · 17 answers · asked by crash 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
I understand. I live in SE Michigan which used to have the highest concentration of Muslims outside the Middle East (now that is California). I think tolerance is anathema to Muslims.
The violence of terrorism is integral to Islam. To criticize the terrorists is anathema. Terrorists are revered. Those who participate in jihad and warfare for the cause of Allah with their lives and their wealth have the highest status in Islam according to the Qur'an.
Among Muslims there are those who:
a) jihad in the path of Allah with their wealth and their lives (including those who sit at home but give asylum to mujahidin 8:74) = true Muslim
b) those who sit at home (and do not give asylum to mujahidin or jihad in the path of Allah)
c) the handicapped (does not count as a category)
According to the Qur'an who is a true believer?
2:244 Fight for the cause of Allah, and know (for sure) that Allah is all-Hearing, and all-Knowing.
3:140 If you have sustained a wound, _ (a blow in the battlefield) _ others too have suffered a similar kind of wound, earlier. These are the vicissitudes of life that We circulate among mankind by turns. Thus, Allah tests the true believers among you, so He may pick the martyrs among you. Allah does not like the wrongdoers.
4:95 The two are not equal: those who sit at home (and do not join the fighting) _ unless they have a reason; they are handicapped _ and those who [jihad] strive hard in the path of Allah with their wealth and lives. Over those who sit at home, Allah has excelled and elevated to a higher honor those who strive hard with their wealth and lives.
Compared to those who sit at home, Allah will award a far greater reward to those who wage a struggle.
8:74 Those who believed, left their homes and waged a struggle for the cause of Allah as well as those who helped and protected them are really the true believers. There is forgiveness for them and a generous rewards.
9:20 According to Allah, far higher in rank are those who believed, left their homes and waged a struggle with their wealth, and their lives. Such are the successful ones!
49:15 The (true) believers are actually those who believe in Allah and His messenger and then do not waver (and do not entertain doubts). With their wealth and their lives, they strive for the sake of Allah. Such are truly the sincere ones
9:86 As soon as a chapter (of the Qur’an) is revealed (instructing them), “Believe in Allah and wage a struggle along with His messenger” the able bodied (and well to do) among them ask to be exempted. They say, “Leave us (behind). Let us be among those who sit at home
Killing (qitl) and jihad in the cause of Allah is the hallmark of true Muslim believers. It is not a matter of moderate or fanatic. It is the distinction of a true believer or a rebel.
4:76 Those who believe, do fight for the sake of Allah, while those who reject faith (Islam) fight for the cause of ‘taghut’ _ (all rebellious forces aligned against Allah). So, fight against the minions of Shaitan. Feeble indeed is the wily guile of Shaitan!
Islam is insidious, it encroaches on a culture slowly and deliberately. Here is a document which discusses the progression of Islam in great detail (50+ pages) -- "From dawa to jihad - the various threats from radical Islam to the democratic legal order": http://www.fas.org/irp/world/netherlands/dawa.pdf
2006-09-19 23:19:46 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
The history of Islamic crusades has never faced a nation with as many armed citizens as the USA. Not that any armed Islamic army would march on US soil.
Currently, they are "testing the waters" in the UK. If they can make the UK fall, they could make the US fall. They will not succeed though until after the rapture of Christians, at which time they can march right in and take over because many citizens will be gone.
2006-09-18 12:41:54 · answer #2 · answered by Bad Cosmo 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
You should read the history of the Ottoman Empire. It was one of the most tolerant nations on earth, yet devoutly moslem. When Jews were being persecuted by the Catholics during he Spanish Inquisition, huge numbers of Jews escaped to the Ottoman Empire. To this day, there is a big Jewish population in Istanbul. They consider Catholics VERY intolerant, but moslems to be their saviors!! Christianity in general has been the most evangelistic religion with an extensive missionary system to convert people to christianity, sometimes peacefully, and sometimes by the power of the sword.
2006-09-18 12:40:16 · answer #3 · answered by professortvz 3 · 2⤊ 1⤋
I'm hearing you. It's a good thing our Constitution protects us from religion. Whenever You see someone complain about the ACLU banning religious actions in government places and schools, be thankful and know we will not become a theocracy like many mideastern countries where women are imprisoned in their homes and men beaten for missing a prayer meeting..
2006-09-18 12:37:13 · answer #4 · answered by ©2009 7 · 1⤊ 2⤋
I didn't know there were these four stages in their historic Islamofascism, but I absolutely agree with your statements. I once asked the local Muslim cleric in my town if it's true that Islam has always been spread by the sword. He smirked at me and said, "Yes, but we're the only ones who are doing what God wants." *!!!!!*
2006-09-18 12:45:58 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋
No, you generalize. Your presumptions have no facts whatsoever to back them up. This is a pitiful attempt at logic. True Muslims are good people, I have met some and they sre very tolerant, they believe Jesus was a prohet, an equal of muhammad, while christians scorn them. This is non sequitur reasoning.
2006-09-18 12:39:11 · answer #6 · answered by Shinkirou Hasukage 6 · 1⤊ 3⤋
Some people would say the same thing about Christians--at least for Christians before the Enlightenment.
2006-09-18 12:35:50 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 1⤋
Wait a second!
The EXACT SAME THING can be said of Christians. You ask any Christian, and they wish the whole world was Christian!
And duh, Christians also want this country to be a Christian state! Many even claim that this country was founded on Christian principles.
Now what's your point? Aren't you a hypocritical Christian for preaching the intolerance of another religion, and at the same time showing your own intolerance?
2006-09-18 12:36:19 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 2⤋
Not these people
2006-09-18 12:38:10 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
you made all this up by yourself?
where did you get this from?
Egypt is an Islamic state and Christians are having total freedom in practicing christianity so what is your point?
2006-09-18 12:39:53 · answer #10 · answered by mido 4 · 2⤊ 2⤋