I would first read Young's literal translation. Robert young set out to write the literal translation of the bible and did not aim to Americanize or modernize it at all. It is much more revealing to read his translation of the bible in my opinion.
Secondly I would study the councils of Nicea, That should be very revealing to you what exactly was taken away from the bible and what was left in. Also might have you questioning why and how the Romans were involved.
And Finally I would study a bit about Arianism. Arianism was the early churches belief (before the council of Nicea) that Jesus was not god. He was a man, the best man ever created but just a man.
Also a wonderful explanation of the Hebrew language in so far as prophecy and story are told can be found here:
(http://www.ccel.org/bible/ylt/ylt.htm)
Hope that helps and good luck with your studies.
2006-09-18 10:19:55
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answered by NumberCruncher 2
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When the german lawyer Martin Luther reduced "protestant" christianity to a form suitable for children, he essentially "gutted" the church. The darker passages are now all but ignored because of their being prettied up to suit the sensibilities of medieval moralists, and anyone attempting to use the original terminology now will find himself on the wrong end of the "church". Sometimes forcefully so! One small example would be the passage in todays bible that says a certain tribe of men had the flesh of horses, and the issue of donkeys. That means nothing to most churchmen, but if the original language were retained it would say without coloration that those men "had penises like horses, and ejaculated like donkeys". The list of such laundered language is extensive and defeats the very intention of their inclusion in the bible. Then there are entire books of the bible that are all but complete mysteries to the average "church". Hebrews would be an excellent example of such a book. And another very serious mistake the church continues to make is it's condemnation of any study of any material that would help to understand the darker passages of the bible, by using the dead end argument that we are commanded to read the scriptures, but that only the few dozen books chosen by Francis Bacon to comprise the bible of James the 1st are valid "scriptures"; conveniently ignoring the fact that when that admonishment was written there was no such thing as a "bible". So then, what scriptures did it refer to! You may be surprised to learn that hundreds of such written documents dating back before the time of Jesus certainly DO still exist, and are studied quite closely by seekers all over the world. It is well known that Jesus himself was an astute student of the jewish scriptures, but it is also believed (with sound reason) that he studied the powerful rituals of Egypt and Persia. (remember the three Magi) It is not possible to accurately interpret the Christian (Christ-an) mysteries (spoken of by Jesus himself) using a literal interpretation of the bible as it is written today. The bible, well understood by serious seachers of said mysteries, is a manual of "layered profundity", intentionally so. It's inner message teaches powerful things that can be terrifying to the uninformed mind, and is far far above that which one hears self appointed "preachers" expounding. In short, the "church" has almost completely lost sight of the real Christ teachings. They have become that which the prophet warned of when he wrote that "in the last days man will have a form of religion, but will deny the power therein". How many of you would sit quietly if a Magi were to float off the floor during his discourse? I hazard a guess that most would run screaming for the door. And think not that such men do not exist, they most assuredly do as they have in all times. The truth is out there, but you must search with an open mind and heart, and you must devour every "scripture" you can get your hands on. If you would be a true "Christian", begin by putting aside the "old Testament" until you understand the "new", then you can see with fresh eyes the clear difference in the two systems. These few peices of information are usually denied by churchmen, and sometimes even attacked. I care not, I pass along only the smallest bits of the timeless discoveries because nothing profound can be accepted by the church as it exists today. Knock and it will be opened does not mean the church door, it means the revelations of the supreme god of creation.
2006-09-18 11:14:17
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answered by Anonymous
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The Dead Sea Scrolls confirmed that the Old Testament has remained unchanged since hundreds of years before Christ. The earliest copies of the New Testament texts come from 100-300 AD, not much later after Jesus's time and do not show any difference in meaning.
We have over 5,000 Greek manuscripts of the NT, and if someone were to deliberately distort something in English we can all see exactly where they distorted it. However that is not the end of the story.
One could bring up the issue of how do we know we have a correct understanding of the Greek language? There are three independent ways that we know.
1. We have extensive references to the Old and New Testaments in Greek and Latin among the church fathers. They not only repeated what was in the Greek, they interpreted and explained it, and we can see how they understood the Greek.
2. We have many non-religious Greek manuscripts, and we can see how most of the words in the New Testament were used in everyday language. For example, a ship could be said to be "baptized" if it was sunk.
3. We have Bibles translated from Greek into other languages, including Coptic, Armenian, Georgian, and Latin.
2006-09-18 09:59:01
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answered by Anonymous
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contrary to popular opinion, it is unlikely that the bible, particularly the New Testament was changed dramatically over time.
Whilst there are different versions (in the New Testament, there are around 30 verses with differences that effect the overal meaning of them, most insignificantly), due to lack of records, we have no surviving documents before 2nd Century BC (with the Dead Sea Scrolls dating from this period) for the Old Testament) whilst most scholars agree the Old Testament was finalised at least 100 years before. The New Testament, however, is highly attested, with 24,000 manuscripts, some dating from as little as 25 years after writing (although most are secondary sources such as early Christians quoting the Bible). This suggest that the New Testament as we know it is probably extremely close to the original. After the New Testament, the span between estimated writing and the earliest documents is the Iliad, with a span of 500 years! All changes or slight discrepancies are also indicated in English translations with the use of footnotes.
2006-09-18 10:03:25
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answered by sashmead2001 5
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You are so right. The orthodox Christians and Roman catholics made many changes in the Bible. They did this because a wave of polytheistic religions was coming through. They needed people to conform to their religion to keep control in their society. So, they took out parts in the Bible that showed Jesus having an intimate relationship with a women. They wanted Jesus to seem perfect, and they thought that people would not look at him as the son of God if he was indulging in human sins. They also intensified Gods judgment to establish fear among their society. The made them scared not to believe. We still use this today. There is a really good book that explains this in more detail. It has been a while since I read it so I do not remember the author. The book is called The Dark Side Of Christianity. In that book contains references to texts that prove their statements. Hope you can find it. If I do, I will e-mail you the info.
2006-09-18 10:03:34
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answered by Anthony L 3
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I admit i'm no longer responsive to the sayings of Eusebius. whether, in Pius XII encyclical on bible analyze, he talks purely of the latin vulgate as having any authority or particular status as divine inerrant concept. The Douay-Rheims version is translated from the latin vulgate which grew to become into diligently while in comparison with the unique Greek. that's those sources that proceed to be intact yet are constantly concern extra superb translations via the years.
2016-10-01 03:01:21
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answered by ? 4
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What Bible are you referencing? The Catholic bible has not changed from the original Vatican councils. All other bibles are revisions made by individuals with no special authority.
Note: The Protestant Bibles are Catholic Bibles with OT books removed. Luther even wanted to change text and remove NT books (James) to meet his idea of salvation history.
2006-09-18 09:58:03
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answered by ManOfPhysics 3
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I'm sorry to say, but there isn't any original text left in today's world. The oldest is in Greek, but you should know that Jesus didn't speak Greek, right?
The Bible in the Aramaic language is lost, and so has the true meaning of the Bible and the original message of Jesus.
2006-09-18 09:56:20
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answered by farhansallehin 3
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The Bible was never changed , that's a lie from satan ,spread by unbelievers. Interpitations have gotten better as the understanding of the greek and hebrew is better. The message has never changed.
We are worth a Son to God.
2006-09-18 10:15:16
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answered by thomasnotdoubting 5
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My bible has not been changed (other than language) from the original texts cannonized in the Nicean Council. Previous translations have even been kept in my Bible. Check what version you have. I use New Revised Standard Version.
2006-09-18 09:59:06
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answered by JG 3
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