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Ezekiel 23 verse 19:

19 Yet she increased her whorings, remembering the days of her youth, when she played the whore in the land of Egypt 20 and lusted after her paramours there, whose members were like those of donkeys, and whose emission was like that of stallions

the verse claims that a lady lusted after men who’s penises were the sizes of donkeys and who’s ejaculation ( when the sperm comes out) is like that of horses. I would really love to know what is the wisdom behind knowing the size of a men’s penises and how they ejaculate. Can any Christian go teach this to his or her children? I would love to see that. Imagine a parent trying to explain this to their kid. So if anything it is the Bible which contains perverted verses such as this one.



I would love to see a Christian response to this verse although I know they wont; they are too ashamed of it which is why they never bring it up. In fact you tell a Christian about this they will say you are lying!

Christians generally love to argue about Islamic teachings of beautiful women in paradise, and the fact that there will be sex in heaven. Christian’s claim that this belief is perverted and cannot be from God. How about we now turn the tables on their own book? How about we read what their own book has to say and see if it is perverted or not.

I want to state that the Islamic conception of heaven is not perverted whatsoever. I would like to know one valid logical reason to what is wrong with having beautiful women in heaven, and to have sex in heaven. What is the Christian objection? Is sex evil? Are beautiful women evil? Is it something bad? If it is then why do Christians have sex! If it is evil why did the Christian God invent sex! If this is something evil and perverted then this means the God of the Bible is evil and perverted since he invented sex!

Source:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/sami_zaatri/ezekiel_23.htm

I do not know what Bible it is from but I think it is NRSV

Answer 1

The biggest problem with non-Christians trying to "trap" Christians by quoting from the Bible is that they always take it out of context.
Look at the whole book of Ezekiel. It is an allegory for how the nation of Israel perverted itself by worhipping other gods. They strayed away from the One True God (Yahweh) and looked to other things (like Mohammed) for their salvation.

As for your questions about Christians and sex, I can't speak for others. But, I'm a Christian and I sure enjoy sex - with my husband only of course. It is a very natural expression of our love for each other. There is nothing dirty or perverted about it, as long as it is in the right context.

Next time, be sure and check your facts before ragging on other people's beliefs.

Answer 2

Ezekiel 23 is about how the cities of Samaria and Jerusalem were playing the whores to other countries and had turned away from God.

It's a lesson against spiritual and sexual impurity and perversion with very graphic language to emphasize what not to do and how not to act.

Something to avoid, you know?

Not like the 72 women to have sex with men are encouraged to look forward to in the Koran at all now is it?

Now that's perverse.

In the Bible it says a man (singular) will leave his mother and a woman (again singular) will leave her home and the 2 will become as 1 body (notice, 1 plus 1 here, not 1 plus 72).

Besides, in Heaven you are supposed to focus on God, not having sex, dummy.

All right fellow Christians; let's set the poor confused lad straight here.

Answer 3

I'm a Christian and I'm not denying that that passage is in the Bible. I looked it up in Biblegateway.com and it was in there verbatum. You aren't lying! I personally don't read in Ezekiel very often (it's a very odd book that I don't take much from), so I didn't remember it being in there. Those verses create a pretty gross picture, but if you read the whole chapter, it seems to be a representation of how people were living at the time.

Answer 4

You have misread the intent of the passage.
The "woman" of the story is Israel, which committed spiritual adultery with the Egyptians, under who Israel were enslaved to.
Spiritual adultery would be idol worship; worshipping the gods of Egypt, in this case.

The theme of the passage is that idolotry in Judaism is like trying to breed a wild donkey with a stallion. But these things are spiritually discerned, so you wouldn't know that.

Typically, people take Bible verses as a bunch of one-liners, without regard for context. That is what you have done in order to denigrate Bible believers.

Answer 5

The "lady" is not a lady at all. It is talking about the kingdom of Judah and their love of perversion...their zeal for Babylonian idol worshiping. Not sex! The Judeans did the same thing while they were in Egypt earlier. They were falling away from God because of their perversion of the word. They were throwing away God and His commands in exchange for the Babylonian idolatry, just as they did with the Egyptian idols. It's their spiritual unfaithfulness that is being discussed.

You are a fool. You have nothing. You want to believe what you want to believe despite the truth.

Answer 6

Here we go again. God does not sugar coat the evils of mankind but records it as such. Just because such things are recorded in the bible does not automatically mean that God condones such things or that there was some sort of wisdom to be gained from such statements.

You are the one who should be ashamed of trying to read something into such things to try and prove a point of which only proved your own ignorance and bias.

Answer 7

OBVIOUSLY, any responsible parent would not give a lecture to children on this specific verse. Your comparing ONE VERSE to the ENTIRE message of the Bible. Are you sifting throught the Quaran finding verses such as these as well. Well you should. The founder Mohammad married and consumated with a 9 year old. How do YOU explain that to your children?

Answer 8

Well ur wrong cuz i can actually repsing to it. The whole point of that verse was to teach us what happened to two girls who lived there life like that and how God cna punish u for continuously doing things like that. What ure trying to say is how cna we teahc our children that adn yes we can bcuz (when they are older) we cna teahc them that life like that i snot good and that God doesn't approve of life like that.

And the reason for the visaul imagery is becuase throughout the whole Bible everything is of imagery. Everything is explained perfetly like how it happened. Just becuase it says something about penises and ejaculation doens't meane that we aare being taught pervertd things! Can u grow up! Gosh! Well bakc to my point. God is giving us an example of how these two girl thought they were living the life and were living life so perfect and tuff until God finally was not tkaing any of it and punished htem. One by getting her lusterers to kill her by the way they she lived and also the other by getting her lustereers against her. Why did u leaev out the rest of the chapter? Huh? U thought that u were smart. I am not saying that ur not but next time ure trying to trick someone or try to make urself seem bigger or better , put in the whole thing and tlak to someone who may not know what ur talking about.

As a mater of fact i was reading this chapter in church yeasterday. I guess God put me on this post for a reaosn. Why didn't u just post the rest of the chapter thats says:
This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Bring a mob against them and give them over to terror and plunder. 47 The mob will stone them and cut them down with their swords; they will kill their sons and daughters and burn down their houses.

48 "So I will put an end to lewdness in the land, that all women may take warning and not imitate you. 49 You will suffer the penalty for your lewdness and bear the consequences of your sins of idolatry. Then you will know that I am the Sovereign LORD" Basically God is trying to say that live ur life like that and He will punish u. ESpecially that other girl who after seeing her sister die from her prostitution dind't stop but continued hers even more than b4. So if that's all u have to say then i hope that i helped.

Answer 9

Christian here!! My kids have read the Bible through and through..Difference between my kids and you is, they understnad symbolism, literalism, metphoric speech..etc...


Ohhh..Your talking about a vision Ezek had. Concerning two sisters as Scripture describes them..their names were: Aholah...symbolic name for samaria and Aholibah...symbolic name for judah..Here is the KJV of it..the numbers next to the words are coincided with strongs exhausitive concordance of the Bible...basically it translates word for word every word in the bible...

Eze 23:19 Yet she multiplied7235 (853) her whoredoms,8457 in calling to remembrance2142 (853) the days3117 of her youth,5271 wherein834 she had played the harlot2181 in the land776 of Egypt.4714
Eze 23:20 For she doted5689 upon5921 their paramours,6370 whose834 flesh1320 is as the flesh1320 of asses,2543 and whose issue2231 is like the issue2231 of horses.5483

Answer 10

The King James version of this verse is a bit different to your version:

Yet she multiplied her whoredoms, remembering the days of her youth, wherein she had played the harlot in the land of Egypt.
v20And she doted upon their paramours, whose flesh is as the flesh of asses, and whose issue is like the issue of horses.

As with any book it is rather easy to pull out one verse without understanding the history or purpose of this text. It is also difficult to gain an understanding of one sentence without reading the whole writing or at least a whole chapter. These are jewish writings and a rather large chunk of the Old Testament is also read by muslims but as a christian yes I will teach my children the whole of the bible in correct context.
This chapter (as before ch. xvi. and xx.) is a history of the apostasies of God's people from him and the aggravations of those apostasies under the similitude of corporal whoredom and adultery. Here the kingdoms of Israel and Judah, the ten tribes and the two, with their capital cities, Samaria and Jerusalem, are considered distinctly. Here is, I. The apostasy of Israel and Samaria from God (ver. 1-8) and their ruin for it, ver. 9, 10. II. The apostasy of Judah and Jerusalem from God (ver. 11-21) and sentence passed upon them, that they shall in like manner be destroyed for it, ver. 22-35. III. The joint wickedness of them both together (ver. 36-44) and the joint ruin of them both, ver. 45-49. And all that is written for warning against the sins of idolatry, and confidence in an arm of flesh, and sinful leagues and confederacies with wicked people (which are the sins here meant by committing whoredom), is that others may hear and fear, and not sin after the similitude of the transgressions of Israel and Judah.

Using similitude - comparing the unfaithfulness of Gods people at this time in history to the unfaithfullness of a harlot. If you wish to understand these writings there are many online bible commentaries available that will help you www.webbible.com or www.christiananswers.net