I demand an apology from Muslims for their continuing violence against Christians. Anybody going to give it?

Question

Muslims have assaulted and even murdered Christians since the Pope (not even a leader of my Protestant Christianity) asked Muslims to please agree not to use violence to propagate religion.
Christians are asking for basic human rights to life, liberty and free speech, and for Muslim leaders to condemn violence committed by their members in the name of Islam.
The proof is in the facts on the ground. Islam is the worship of lawlessness: rape, bombing, and murder! Disprove this, Muslims, by acting to stop the violence!
I do not wish to hear from persons of other or none religion than Islam, please.

I reinterate that I do apologize for historic wrongdoing. Since I was a Homo Sapiens before I was a Christain, I apologize for the whole mess since Cain and Abel. I really wish Eve had not been so fond of friut.
Apologizing does not mean you accept personal criminal guilt, it rather means you wish it hadn't happened and you want to help it not happen again. We can't change history, but from this day forth we can work to ensure that all persons, regardless of religion, race, gender or nationality, get treated decently. And yes, You can get that in the West sooner than in Muslim countries. Why do you think so many come here?

Answer 1

What follows below is my response to a friend’s email concerning the same issue as what is being discussed in this forum:

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Its one thing for the common street hoodlum, or radical foot soldier, in Muslim countries, to be enraged by the comments made by the Pope. I don’t expect many of them to take time to deliberate the issue, or subsume the Pope’s comments in the proper context. They are reactionary beings. However, you would think that Imams’ and other Muslim clerics would me more academic in their reception of comments made by other religious leaders, affording their colleagues on the other side of the religious spectrum a fair hearing. Instead these so called learned men of Muslim upbringing are just as reactionary as the ruffians on the streets of Palestine, or the insurgents attacking their own people in Iraq.

It’s bizarre that both Jews and Christians are called to make concessions and penance to placate Muslim sensitivities, and yet any offense to Christian ideals or people by Muslim authorities is met with deafening silence. When Christian churches are burned to the ground, when our iconography is desecrated because of Islamic militancy, and when death threats are levied on our most revered religious figures, no one in our ranks cries out for apologies or even reparations. No calls for the destruction of Mosques; no command for the assassination of Muslim leaders; and no vitriolic statements from our religious leaders are made concerning Muslim clerics. Even when the more radical fringe of Christendom – men like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson – make inflammatory remarks concerning Muslims and Islam, there is a large outcry from both mainline Christianity and the western secular media denouncing their statements as inane and immoral.

It is the Muslim world that has failed dismally in their efforts to do the same. We always point the incriminating finger at those within our fold that act in a manner that is in discord with what we believe to be the noble thing to do. Muslim “moderates” standby quietly giving tacit approval to the aggression of their more “radical” brethren.

Muslims constantly lament the disproportionate military response to 9/11 that Bush has made. Many in the Christian wing and in the rest of the western world have called him on it, and criticize him constantly for it. Yet when Muslim people attack Christian churches for something as trivial as a cartoon or an insensitive statement made by another Christian, no one talks about the Muslim disproportionate reaction. At least our attack of Afghanistan and Iraq, though focusing on the wrong people, returned violence for violence. Muslims, in reaction to mere rhetoric, returns temporarily hurtful words with violence. Words are eventually forgotten; a loss of life has repercussions that never really go away. You tell me who is responding in a more disproportionate fashion? Who in this scenario is responding more unjustly?

I wonder if Muslims realize how utterly feeble minded they look every time they respond like this? I am curious if “moderate” Muslims are cognizant of the fact that the more they remain mute concerning the wrong doings of their radical counterparts, the more the rest of the world will see them as one in the same? For my part, I a little doubtful as to how divergent “moderate” Muslims are ideologically from their “radical” colleagues. Both of them believe that Muhammad is the supreme prophet, one who supersedes even Jesus in divine significance. Muslims of both “radical” and “moderate” stripe believe that Muhammad is also the ultimate paradigm of human behavior; a model that should be emulated as close as possible. Both, if truly candid, must acknowledge that Muhammad, UNLIKE Jesus, who is the Christian’s primary example for living, was a military commander that took part in violence, order assassinations, and engaged in all the brutality associated with a military enterprise. He ordered the execution of those whose only sin was to ridicule him. These are historical facts attested to in their Qu’ran, Hadith, and secular Arabian history. Maybe the so called “moderate” Muslims don’t vocalize dissent against the “radicals” in their midst because they know, in their heart of hearts, that those the world likes to marginalize as “radicals” really represent the manner of behavior Muhammad would have condoned. The “moderates” remain silent, so as not to underscore their secret agreement with “radical” tactics and their own cowardice at not acting on principles they agree with.

I am disappointed at my Pope for apologizing for statements that are truthful. The truth is always offensive. Jesus made statements to the Pharisees that were infused with controversy. He never apologized for them, despite how inflammatory they might have been. There is no need for Pope Benedict XVI to qualify his statement with an appeal to proper context. Even as an isolated statement, the statements by the Byzantine emperor, that the Pope was quoting, are a truthful assessment of Islam’s prophet. The Catholic Church needs stop being politically correct. The Catholic Church needs to cease abiding by a culture of appeasement. Why should the Pope apologize for the narrow minds of those who cannot read a statement in its context, or who cannot admit to the dark side of their faith? Contrition and forgiveness are foundations to the Christian faith, but to be contrite, when one is not at fault, makes a mockery of reconciliation. If the church continues to be spineless like this, even I will want to leave it.

Answer 2

Well the way you've put your request for an apology begs a question, and most of it is not true. you are obviously very ignorant. but i do want more of my Muslim brother and sisters to take a stand so i will condemn them again as i have so many times in this forum. they are despicable people and are my enemy as much as non-muslims enemy.
But i'm not apologising because i've done nothing wrong. Are you going to apologise for the KKK, slavery, the Inquisition, colonisation and the deaths that caused, the aparthied, the crusades, the holocaust, the witch hunts, the IRA, the Purges, hiroshuma, i could go on.....

Answer 3

Hi, I'm an Atheist, who calls a pox on both your houses, so to speak.
How would you feel about an apology from all religious leaders, for all the pogroms, crusades, Inquisitions, conversions by intimidation, witch and heretic burnings etc etc etc, that have been perpetrated in the name of all faiths - including your own - over the centuries?
I'd love to see that. Or are you saying that hatred and intolerance and violence and persecution are all okay if they are done in the name of MY god, but not others?

Answer 4

You are forgetting about the crusades, the Inquisition, and general bias against Muslims. Sure, some terrorists are Muslims, but what about Christian fundamentalists, Northern Ireland, and general feelings of hatred? That's why I'm a Buddhist.

I do think Muslims overreact too much. Ignore those cartoons!

Answer 5

I don't think you deserve it. You are very prejudice and I am very sure that a Muslim has committed no violence against you.
It's people like you who view every person of a certain religion as being EXACTLY like the crazy ones, that fuels the exact problem you are complaining about.
So, stop it before it gets worse!!

Answer 6

alright already
I, on behalf of all the bad and good muslims all world over apologizes for all their wrong doings towards the great one
the popejohn paul II

Does it makes you happy ,satisfied or more forgiving?
Does it make you righteous if you wronged others?
Does it makes you to heaven if other think you're perfect?
Does it makes your religion more a peaceful & lawful civilised one than others?

believed you're not at peace & lawful yourself dude

you're all like little children that loves to be cuddled, praised, admired, adored but not otherwise

you're all the same
selfish, arrogant and paranoic blind followers and believers

never the mind
Christian,muslims and jews will all go to heaven
while people like me will volunteer to be burnt in hell

so STOP THE FIGHTING already OK?

Answer 7

This is redundant.

That's like African Americans waiting on "Christian KKK members" to apologize for years of killings, rapes and torture...it's not going to happen. Every religion, race and financial background kills.

Let's be realistic. Not every Muslim should be held accountable for the ignorant one that exist. I'm a Christian and there are very ignorant Christians out there...look at Bush.

Answer 8

You are unlikely to get any apologies. I'm sorry the Pope apologized for telling the truth about Mohamed and Islam.

Answer 9

Sorry but I doubt you will get any apologies for that just like fundlemental christians won't apologize for trying to insert their religious beliefs into the US government

Answer 10

Well, you're going to hear from me buddy and I'm not Muslin. What you are is REPORTED!!

Ever hear of the Inquisition or the Crusades?..the Christian/Catholic faith is hardly innocent!

Wake the hell up, pal. Not all Muslims are terrorists just as not all "Chrisitan" people are wonderful and holy.

BTW..I was raised Catholic

Answer 11

Ditto Lawrence "Che" above