What do you think about the Pope's words?

Question

Was the Pope speaking the other day or was it just professor Ratzinger?
Did he attempt to attack muslims?
Is that attitude suitable for a Pope?

Answer 1

a pope should know all about religion not comment like a commoner without quotes
How can Islam be called the religion of peace when it was spread by the sword?

Answer:

It is a common complaint among some non-Muslims that Islam would not have millions of adherents all over the world, if it had not been spread by the use of force. The following points will make it clear, that far from being spread by the sword, it was the inherent force of truth, reason and logic that was responsible for the rapid spread of Islam.


1. Islam means peace.


Islam comes from the root word ‘salaam’, which means peace. It also means submitting one’s will to Allah (swt). Thus Islam is a religion of peace, which is acquired by submitting one’s will to the will of the Supreme Creator, Allah (swt).


2. Sometimes force has to be used to maintain peace.


Each and every human being in this world is not in favour of maintaining peace and harmony. There are many, who would disrupt it for their own vested interests. Sometimes force has to be used to maintain peace. It is precisely for this reason that we have the police who use force against criminals and anti-social elements to maintain peace in the country. Islam promotes peace. At the same time, Islam exhorts it followers to fight where there is oppression. The fight against oppression may, at times, require the use of force. In Islam force can only be used to promote peace and justice.


3. Opinion of historian De Lacy O’Leary.


The best reply to the misconception that Islam was spread by the sword is given by the noted historian De Lacy O’Leary in the book "Islam at the cross road" (Page 8):

"History makes it clear however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myth that historians have ever repeated."


4. Muslims ruled Spain for 800 years.


Muslims ruled Spain for about 800 years. The Muslims in Spain never used the sword to force the people to convert. Later the Christian Crusaders came to Spain and wiped out the Muslims. There was not a single Muslim in Spain who could openly give the adhan, that is the call for prayers.


5. 14 million Arabs are Coptic Christians.


Muslims were the lords of Arabia for 1400 years. For a few years the British ruled, and for a few years the French ruled. Overall, the Muslims ruled Arabia for 1400 years. Yet today, there are 14 million Arabs who are Coptic Christians i.e. Christians since generations. If the Muslims had used the sword there would not have been a single Arab who would have remained a Christian.


6. More than 80% non-Muslims in India.


The Muslims ruled India for about a thousand years. If they wanted, they had the power of converting each and every non-Muslim of India to Islam. Today more than 80% of the population of India are non-Muslims. All these non-Muslim Indians are bearing witness today that Islam was not spread by the sword.


7. Indonesia and Malaysia.


Indonesia is a country that has the maximum number of Muslims in the world. The majority of people in Malaysia are Muslims. May one ask, "Which Muslim army went to Indonesia and Malaysia?"


8. East Coast of Africa.


Similarly, Islam has spread rapidly on the East Coast of Africa. One may again ask, if Islam was spread by the sword, "Which Muslim army went to the East Coast of Africa?"


9. Thomas Carlyle.


The famous historian, Thomas Carlyle, in his book "Heroes and Hero worship", refers to this misconception about the spread of Islam: "The sword indeed, but where will you get your sword? Every new opinion, at its starting is precisely in a minority of one. In one man’s head alone. There it dwells as yet. One man alone of the whole world believes it, there is one man against all men. That he takes a sword and try to propagate with that, will do little for him. You must get your sword! On the whole, a thing will propagate itself as it can."


10. No compulsion in religion.


With which sword was Islam spread? Even if Muslims had it they could not use it to spread Islam because the Qur’an says in the following verse:

"Let there be no compulsion in religion:
Truth stands out clear from error"
[Al-Qur’an 2:256]


11. Sword of the Intellect.


It is the sword of intellect. The sword that conquers the hearts and minds of people. The Qur’an says in Surah Nahl, chapter 16 verse 125:

"Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord
with wisdom and beautiful preaching;
and argue with them in ways that are
best and most gracious."
[Al-Qur’an 16:125]


12. Increase in the world religions from 1934 to 1984.


An article in Reader’s Digest ‘Almanac’, year book 1986, gave the statistics of the increase of percentage of the major religions of the world in half a century from 1934 to 1984. This article also appeared in ‘The Plain Truth’ magazine. At the top was Islam, which increased by 235%, and Christianity had increased only by 47%. May one ask, which war took place in this century which converted millions of people to Islam?


13. Islam is the fastest growing religion in America and Europe.


Today the fastest growing religion in America is Islam. The fastest growing religion in Europe in Islam. Which sword is forcing people in the West to accept Islam in such large numbers?


14. Dr. Joseph Adam Pearson.


Dr. Joseph Adam Pearson rightly says, "People who worry that nuclear weaponry will one day fall in the hands of the Arabs, fail to realize that the Islamic bomb has been dropped already, it fell the day MUHAMMED (pbuh) was born".

Answer 2

The Pope was trying to start an internal debate about violence in religion and how he thought that was not acceptable in any religion. Mostly what you saw afterwards was by Muslim extremist who attacked churches and killed a nun in Somalia. What I see as a huge problem is that more moderate Muslim clerics don't try to separate themselves from the extremist. This has me believing that this is a more popular mindset of more and more Muslims perhaps. It also seems like I've heard way more commotion about the Pope's comments than about condemnation about the 911 attacks. Disturbing huh?

Answer 3

you ppl need to understand the whole content....he was trying to make a point by quoting the chancellor manuel 2 who was a philosopher and trying to proove that no religion should be spread by sword no matter if islam or christian.he criticised the jihad which the terrorists use to denf islam...he wanted to show that reliogn is a spirutal thing whereas vilence only a thing done to the body thus stating that violence shoudl ahve nothing to do with religon....you ppl should stop criticising the man before you actually understand and read all he said...he is extremely intelligent and quick witted... most ppl just don't understand what he wanted to express

Answer 4

Both the catholic and muslim religions are false religions that have horribly twisted the true meaning of the Scriptures throughout history in many ways. May be we should consider forming a new religion with a better understanding of the Bible to replace the false religions of the world. Tell me if you don't think elijah3's posts in the Immortality Institutes forum on "why money doesn't bring happiness" doesn't have the right idea? Checkout his posts at:

http://www.imminst.org/forum/index.php?s=&act=ST&f=179&t=11517&st=40&#entry130970

http://www.imminst.org/forum/index.php?s=&act=ST&f=179&t=11517&st=40&#entry131005

http://www.imminst.org/forum/index.php?s=&act=ST&f=179&t=11517&st=40&#entry131227

http://www.imminst.org/forum/index.php?s=&act=ST&f=179&t=11517&st=40&#entry131238

http://www.imminst.org/forum/index.php?s=&act=ST&f=179&t=11517&st=40&#entry131279

Answer 5

Personally, I believed they(the christians) picked the WRONG POPE! they rather chose someone with ties to Hitler Youth than a minority?! that is some whacked thinking!

Answer 6

So only Muslims can speak freely?

Answer 7

He spoke the truth and some people can't handle it.

Answer 8

I think he just did not use his brains...

May be sign of coming idiocy? Or time to get retired..

Answer 9

Ask he where God was in all this

Would of been enough to can his butt

Answer 10

foolish old man.