OK. If you had a choice to be tortured (mind and body) for your beliefs and only possibly go to heaven, or say "God is fake" and live, and still possibly go to heaven, which would you choose? Now think because being tortured isn't fun, and these are just three little words.
2006-09-16 15:49:44 · 21 answers · asked by Mr. T, formerly known as Shadow. 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
I want to see how many of you people lie and say yes. Because you say that you are Christian, so is lying worse or better in this case??
2006-09-16 15:58:15 · update #1
azar hate to break it to you but God doesn't take the pain. Or you think he stops the words from coming out?? Yeah he doesn't do that either....
2006-09-16 16:00:49 · update #2
You people really believe you could hold out huh?
2006-09-16 16:26:17 · update #3
I'm an atheist, and I would say or do anything to avoid torture for myself, my kids, or my friends.
I asked this question once, only I asked if people would renounce their religions inorder to keep their children from being executed.I was appalled when over half the respondents replied that they would NEVER renounce their religion, for any reason.
You should get some interesting answers.
2006-09-16 15:55:13 · answer #1 · answered by Divine 2 · 0⤊ 3⤋
Dear Shadowgirl, I have no idea what it would be like to be tortured and sincerely hope I never have to deal with it, but I do know that in my heart, I cannot deny that God exists, nor do I beleive in my heart that He is fake. For that reason, I pray that God will give me the strength to deal with whatever he wants me to deal with and that I can hold on firm until the end.
So I see the options as
Option A - Being tortured mind and body for a short time (face it you cannot torture me permanently) and take my chances on a heaven which will be for eternity.
Or
Option B - denying God, and hoping that everything that I believe is wrong and hope somehow that an exception is made and I will somehow get into heaven. But most likely end up in hell for eternity.
While I don't like these options, I'll take option A because my savior saved me and because of that, I owe him a lot.
2006-09-16 23:08:22 · answer #2 · answered by Searcher 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Christians are indwelled by the Holy Spirit.
If, in this circumstance, a Christian is willing to let God have control over the situation, then it's likely that the person won't physically be able to say anything of this nature.
Has forced conversion happened before? Who knows the heart but God.
I can say whatever I like here & now, & I would give it whatever strength I had to stay true to my Saviour. Most Christians experience some form of persecution & emotional torment on a daily basis for our beliefs. This builds a great deal of strength.
I do know that God will never burden me with more than He knows I can bear.
2006-09-16 22:58:43 · answer #3 · answered by azar_and_bath 4 · 3⤊ 1⤋
No being tortured i`sent fun but I`d rather be tortured then to lie and say that I belive he`s fake. God is not fake.
2006-09-17 01:59:30 · answer #4 · answered by kagome9854 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Your right. Torture isn't fun. But I really, really, really believe God exists. Being separted from him for eternity would be the worse torture. The torture on this earth wouldn't last as long.
2006-09-16 23:14:16 · answer #5 · answered by mocha5isfree 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No person can honestly say what they would do unless they were in that situation. I would want to say that I would be tortured for God, it's the least I could do after how much He has done for me, but however willing my spirit may be, I know that my flesh is weak.
2006-09-16 23:03:31 · answer #6 · answered by malsvb6 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
I think if one had to endure torture of the mind and body for the sake of the Gospel of Christ, that God would honor that person's faith by accepting him/her. Paul says in Phillipians 1:21 "For me to live is Christ and to die is gain." I think he would agree that while we are living we should give glory to God, we wouldn't be doing that by renouncing him...and I think he said "to die is gain" because he would spend eternity with his heavenly father. I said all that to say I would choose torture...Plus even though we could go to God for forgiveness after calling him a fake, which we can equate with saying he doesn't exist (?), the Bible also says something about not using God's grace and mercy towards us as an opportinity to sin...
2006-09-16 23:05:55 · answer #7 · answered by Jas P 2 · 2⤊ 1⤋
You said "only possibly go to heaven." Jesus promises that people will be with him in paradise if they accept his gift of salvation. Which makes is more than a possibility, and more than a probability. It makes it true.
You also said "being tortured isn't fun" as if you know what you're talking about, sounding like a person who has the luxury to boo-hoo about the torture of human beings over her Cosmo while keeping one eye on the door to see if her dream guy walks into the bar.
And then you go on to accuse people--people you don't know, but who you think you know because you think you know something about people, although I wonder if you'd recognize a person of honor and integrity if they mopped up your spilled drink behind you--of lying to you just now.
I know a thing or two about being saved, and I know a thing or two about being tortured. And, you're right--being tortured "isn't fun." I know from enduring torture that it made me certain in truth--that this is a fallen world filled with some cruelty and horror, and that mankind needs saving. I know that when I set about to live a free life--free of torture--I was utterly messed up from having been mentally thrashed, accused, condemned, and laughed at... as well as physically ill from having been beaten, used, and discarded like nothing while my torturers went on their merry ways to live lives of relative ease and prosperity. I spent nearly two decades in fear (PTSD), confusion, anxiety, physical pain, alcohol and drug abuse, and with rage toward most everything and everyone.
To make a longish story short, when I asked God to save my soul through the mercy of his Son Jesus, he did it...and rebuilt and transformed my life in ways that people at cocktail parties may laugh at but that are astonishing, miraculous, beautiful, and very real.
I would pray that God give me the strength not to deny him if I were asked to under mental and physical torture. I have trouble imagining that I would deny him, since he gave me life after my life had been smashed. No human power--not mine, not yours, not my doctors', and so forth--could do a fraction of what God did when I asked him to.
And he did it after I had spent years blaspheming him.
Is this love and mercy? I should think so.
May God give me the strength to always keep holy his name and to keep true to his spirit.
2006-09-16 23:11:30 · answer #8 · answered by Gestalt 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I will not lie. I don't want to be tortured either, but God is not fake, so bring on the torture, God will not put more on me than I can stand.
God loves you.
2006-09-16 23:02:55 · answer #9 · answered by marvs36 3 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Would have to opt for the torture. The Christian faith doesn't accept the "possible heaven" scenario, so if I'm sealed by the Holy Spirit through God's grace through faith in Jesus, heaven is definite. Meanwhile, Jesus said if we deny him before men, he will deny us before God. That is VERY dangerous (definitely no heaven). To deny him, like Peter did (and repented), would be to shame Jesus' sacrifice for us and to dishonor all the martyrs that were tortured and died for the gospel's sake.
2006-09-16 23:00:29 · answer #10 · answered by ©2007 answers by missy 4 · 3⤊ 1⤋