Biblehelp - what is wrong with this? How could you?

Question

"you are born in sin from the womb"...
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1. Doesn't this mean it's ok for an abortion?
2. Have you ever held a newborn? There is no sin - I can testify to that!
3. Is this the works of your Kind and Gentle God?

No offense, but that has to be the sickest statement I have ever heard....to say sins start in the womb is attacking the innocence of a child at birth. There is nothing wrong with a newborn. Anyone who believes this is really twisted in my opinion. Sorry - but it's sick stuff like this that makes me thing Christianity has major issues...all bad.

SO CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS?

Answer 1

The Christian religion starts off by telling people that they are all sinners and will go to "hell" if they are not saved. They make it seem compulsory to join them, and keep their members constantly afraid of not being good enough to get into heaven. Satanists believe that children and animals represent the purest forms of existence, and we do not harm them, but to Christians, ALL humans are "mere worms" (see Job).

Answer 2

1. No, it's not okay. "Thou shalt not kill."
2. Well, since my parents were afraid I'd drop her, I didn't hold my sister as a newborn. I don't think so. Yes. I see the purity in a newborn. The truth is, however, that though babies are, in a way, pure and untainted, the evil human impulse eventually manifests itself in them, however small. When they grow up a few months, and their parents command them to abstain from something that is truly wrong ("Don't touch that!" "Don't hit him!"), they almost always disobey initially, even when they know exactly what the parent is commanding them not to do. The Bible tells all children to obey their parents in the Lord, because it is right. The fact that, even as babies, they have broken a commandment that they didn't have to break shows that sin (which can be defined as disobeying God) is natural even to the must pure, innocent child. Finally, look at the growth and development of a child as a toddler. You would think that all children do not have an inclination to evil, right? Well, when they grow up, that's disproven. Children of this age may not want to share their toys or may have a penchant for destruction and outright disobedience. It is sad, really, but though babies are pure, in a sense, we are truly born in sin and shaped in iniquity.

Answer 3

Original sin is a LIE! NO SIN IS INHERITED!

Ezekiel 18 is a treatise on the subject. Read the whole chapter to learn the truth. In it, God presents a hypothetical case, a family with alternating good and evil fathers and sons. Here are a few snippets from it:


Eze 18:1 A message came to me from the LORD. He said,
2 “You people have a proverb about the land of Israel. What do you mean by it? It says, “‘The parents eat sour grapes. But the children have a bitter taste in their mouths.’
3 “You will not use that proverb in Israel anymore,” announces the LORD and King. “And that is just as sure as I am alive.
4 Everyone belongs to me. Father and son alike belong to me. People will die because of their own sins.

9 He follows my rules. He is faithful in keeping my laws. He always does what is right. You can be sure he will live,” announces the LORD and King.
10 “But suppose he has a mean son who harms other people. The son commits murder. Or he does some other things that are wrong.
13... Will a man like that live? He will not! You can be sure he will be put to death. And what happens to him will be his own fault. He did many things I hate.
19 “But you still ask, ‘Is the son guilty along with his father?’ No! The son did what was fair and right. He was careful to keep all of my rules. So you can be sure he will live.
20 People will die because of their own sins. The son will not be guilty because of what his father did. And the father will not be guilty because of what his son did. The right things a godly person does will be added to his account. The wrong things a sinful person does will be charged against him.
21 “But suppose a sinful person turns away from all of the sins he has committed. And he keeps all my rules. He does what is fair and right. Then you can be sure he will live. He will not die.
23 “When sinful people die, it does not give me any joy,” announces the LORD and King. “But when they turn away from their sins and live, that makes me very happy.
24 “Suppose a godly person stops doing what is right. And he commits sin. He does the same evil things a sinful person does. He does things I hate. Then he will not live. I will not remember any of the right things he has done. He has not been faithful to me. He has also committed many other sins. So he is guilty. He will die.
25 “But you say, ‘What the Lord does isn’t fair.’ Listen to me, people of Israel. What I do is always fair. What you do is not.

This is one of the "strongest" passages in scripture. Very few things are "as sure as God is alive." I cannot understand why so many people believe Calvin's false teaching on such a simple question. I guess they just accept what they are told and don't search the scriptures for true answers.

There is another interpretation of "sinful nature" as in Romans 8:5 "Don’t live under the control of your sinful nature. If you do, you will think about what your sinful nature wants. Live under the control of the Holy Spirit. If you do, you will think about what the Spirit wants." The sinful nature is a direct result of Adam's sin. We all tend to sin, but we are nor born GUILTY of ANY SIN. The statement of Ezekiel 18:4 is timeless, "People will die because of their own sins."

Answer 4

We a born into a world of sin, it did not say our birth was a sin. W hen we are born we are innocent, when we are old enough to know right from wrong, and then we do bad ugly things, then we are sinning, and will be held accountable for our sins. And NO it is not alright to get an abortion for any reason.

Answer 5

...Nope, it's no justification for an abortion.
...All children are born with a sin nature - if you don't believe that:
1. Children do not have learn how to lie, but must be taught to tell the truth.
2. Check out a nursery full of 2 year olds and watch all the self-oriented behavior - they must be taught to love and share.
3. God is His mercy and grace provided a way of salvation through Jesus Christ, who died for sinners - see

Romans 5:6-8 - For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. For one will hardly die for a righteous man; though perhaps for the good man someone would dare even to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
How would you explain children's bent toward evil and selfishness?

Answer 6

hmmmm... let me see if I can explain it any better than the person who angered you.

Adam was created in Gods image. sinless, perfect, inteligent. then he sinned.

Adam had a Son and he was born in ADAMS image, in a fallen state, imperfect.

While I agree that a newborn has not sinned, they are not innocent, they are out of instinct SELFCENTERED at birth. they do not need to be taught to sin. it comes naturally. you do not need to teach a child to lie, the will do this often times before they can speak, denying they have done something that they have. Children because of being born in their fallen state have to be taught to obey, not to disobey. and by the time that they learn that they can get fed if they cry this is a self centered act. albeit innocent because the know nothing else, it is the end of innocence.

hope this helps, without offending.

Answer 7

Only one sin is inherited. The sin of Adam.

Tell me, when that same child is two: and they learn the word NO, do you still say the same thing?
Tell me, when that same child is five: and starts lying to cover their a$$'s, do you still say the same thing?
Tell me, when that same child is eight: and they get into fist fights at school or steal something they want, do you still say the same thing?
Tell me, when that same child is ten: and they disrespect the parents in the house, do you say the same thing?

How did they learn these things? Did you teach them or did they learn on their own? Sin is from birth and from the womb man is corrupt beyond all imagination.

Answer 8

Inherited from Adam (& Eve). So, it starts WAY before the womb.

We don't place blame on the infant - he doesn't know what sin is. Neither does God.

Sin nature is what we all have. All are born with it. Even after conversion, the sin nature is still there.

God knows this, that's why He gave us an out - Jesus.

Answer 9

I guess you think Christians believe that babies who die go to Hell. No they don't. They aren't held responsible for original sin because they have never heard and understood the Gospel. So how can they deny God? Babies get a free ticket to Heaven. They're the most precious in God's eyes.

Answer 10

Can you cite that please, cause i don´t remember any passage of the Bible that says that. If a person wrote that, he should read well. For you, i say read Job, and the part wher God says, that He knows us before we are born, that he takes care of us...and if we were born with sins, and i guess what you refer as sin is original sin, you can wipe it out thanks to baptism.