I DO NOT agree with what the Pope said. I think he is an idiot to say something like that in today's political climate. He was obviously not paying attention to the furor that was ignited when 'those cartoons' emerged earlier this year. What did he think was going to happen? Anyway, my real question is: why do the Muslim population over react every time something appears that criticizes their religion. Yes, other religions have a reaction, but do they burn things, run around the streets with fists in the air and anger in their hearts, threaten death to the person responsible and everyone associated with that person? Don't you think it shows how this group of individuals is totally intolerant of any outside opinion or discussion?
2006-09-16
06:24:50
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For the record: I am not American. I am an Atheist and when I say that I do not agree with what the Pope said, I mean that I do not agree with the fact that the Pope made inflammatory remarks about a Religion that is so intolerant. We have enough problems in the world without some idiot inflaming the situation. Leave it up to the politicians to do that....
2006-09-16
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I have not heard Muslim leaders come out and condemn those Muslims who commit mass murder in the name of their God. If they are truly relegion of peace this is the time for them to speak."
The pope was right to say what he has said and
for such a peaceful religion the followers of Islam have a tendency to use “the threat of violence” when they don’t like what they hear.
If Muslims were as quick to publicly condemn the suicide bombers who cowardly kill and maim in the name of Islam, then maybe we'd start taking other things they whinge about more seriously.
Its ok for Islam to print, say and spread anti christian and anti semetic propaganda. As soon as someone writes a book, says anything or even draws a cartoon even remotely anti Islamic, the death threats and the bombings and the looting and sacking of embassies etc starts.
Here we go again! Dare to say anything which could be construed as criticism of Islam, and the usual bandwagon of vilification and hatred gets underway.
Why not wonder "why do people see us in this light; why do people say such things about us?" and seek to change perceptions?!
By giving the usual reaction, Muslims merely reinforce the stereotypical view - it perpetuates the vicious circle.
With all the ongoing crisis in the middle east, as far as I can see, the quote makes a valid point.
If Muslim world's anger can simply be aroused by a quote, it's probably time to get some anger management.
I am DEEPLY tired of the islamics throwing their hands up in horror every time someone even remotely criticises their religion, and yet they feel it is okay to savage anyone (figuratively and literally) that is not of their faith.
Tolerance works both ways; if they want non-islamics to accept them, then maybe they should try to accept that not every living thing wants to be a muslim.
'No real effort to understand Islam'. Oh boo-hoo-hoo. Since when was the onus suddenly on everyone else to understand Islam? People make judgements based on what they see and experience over time. What else is there to understand? Sounds like a spoilt teenager wailing 'no one understands me, I'm so special and unique'. Why doesn't Islam make more effort to understand why a fair number of people dislike it so much?
Instead of Muslims attacking the Pope on his statement, they should be stopping the terrorist groups etc. Why can Muslims sit back and say nothing about attacks in the west but shout with anger when someone questions there way of spreading Islam. Moderate muslims have to choose the sword or democracy there is no in between.
Simple question: Do records show that Mohammed did say something along these lines? Given how he behaved, the answer is probably yes.
Yet again, Muslims are trying to rewrite their own violent history, shutting down any *factual* discussion of history by pretending to be offended rather than countering arguments with facts and getting us to give up our own valuable freedom of speech.
I am not surprised that the Muslims are complaining, all they do. Even historical quotes seem to ruffle there feathers. Yet when they say anything about Christianity or the West we just sit there and take it.
They can only dish out criticism not take it.
How about all the scum that rant and rave on our streets about how evil the West is and openly rejoice in the events of 9/11, retract all their statements?
Once again the Muslims/Islam are having another cry about some words someone has said. This shows how weak Islam is as a religion, say or draw something and they get upset BORING. My faith and beliefs in my own religon transend any petty words or drawings....
Time for Islam to grow up and become part of the world community that we live in....
He was mentioning an historical fact. Islam is the only world religion who's so called "prophet of peace" spread his word by the sword. Did Jesus or Buddha ever take up arms and resort to violence? No. Any religion that leaves room for interpretation of violence, justifies suicide bombing and advocates the repression of women cannoty be viewed as a religion of peace. If Muslims wish us to view thier religion as peaceful then they need to learn tolerance of other views and stop their murdering.
Surely Islam's ridiculously disproportionate response to things such as this and the Mohammed cartoons will only tarnish Islam's image yet further?
For heavens sake. The muslims are upset AGAIN. Are these people really that childish and insecure that every single comment upsets them.
Wouldn't it be so nice to have even a couple of days out from this constant whingeing. What offends most here is that our lives are constantly dominated by this nonsense. Why don't these people grow up?
2006-09-16 06:35:06
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answered by wzr5gq20032000 1
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you don't agree with what the Pope quoted from the 14th century? What do you mean not paying attention. His speech was about uniting all believers in God. Didn't you read all what he was saying? He didn't ignite anything. He was speaking to followers, believers in God.
Muslims overreact because their government insists that they do. And their government(s) have alterior motives. They burn things out of protest. But when their former President came to the USA last week and said mean things in some huge church here did the USA burn that former President in effagy? Heck no, we just ignored the guy. Cause he wasn't thinking.
All I know is that Islam wants to bring about the end of the world so their savior would arrive...he missed the date he was supposed to arrive a few weeks ago. They don't want to suffer the embarassment that maybe, just maybe they were wrong and should have believed in the original savior.
But in addition, there is a cultural and language barrier and Islam just doesn't understand Americans, and Americans don't really care (usually) if someone doesn't understand them.
2006-09-16 13:34:53
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answered by sophieb 7
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the pope is not an idiot, he's commentary has been taken out of context and misrepresented. His remarks regarding (quoting a seventh century Professor Khoury)
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached". The emperor, after having expressed himself so forcefully, goes on to explain in detail the reasons why spreading the faith through violence is something unreasonable"
2 sentences later he said:
Whoever would lead someone to faith needs the ability to speak well and to reason properly, without violence and threats.
Islam wins again, I wonder who they want to behead next...hmmm...let me guess, the POPE!
2006-09-16 13:35:18
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answered by JM 2
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Muslims are the most intolerant, unforgiving of all people in this world. For goodness sakes....look how they reacted to a cartoon!
The world would be a nicer place if they truly practiced their religion and made peace a priority.
2006-09-16 13:28:28
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answered by Bingo's Mommy 5
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the pope was "quoting" someone else ancient saying. Some who are "influential" are comparing him to Hitler!! Those are the idiots! Another Muslim leader said "He must've known this would mean war". Gee theres a surprise, what DOESNT mean war to them in matters of difference of religious opinion. I don't believe he should take it back at all, lets see if his words are justified by their reaction to the statement of their faith being "by the sword"
2006-09-16 14:10:23
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answered by LIVINGmylife 3
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You are all have an excuse to what you say and think, that's you have no heart to be angry like us, Muslims, in response to what every one in the world telling, or lying, about Islam and Mohammed.
2006-09-16 13:50:38
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answered by Green visitor is back :D 5
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Muslim extremists r confused individuals, PRAY 4 them.... Lock Ur doors when ya see them if u r not in doors RUN, report any Muslim carrying any sort of hand baggage (even the children, they gettn naff aso)...
2006-09-16 13:33:21
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answered by Anonymous
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When somebody made fun of my religion (Christianity) I just said "whatever." That's all I did!
I didn't blow up buildings or behead people like some Muslims do.
2006-09-16 13:27:43
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answered by Anonymous
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nobody likes to be offended
2006-09-16 13:31:52
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answered by Cat Stevens 6
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i'm sorry..
2006-09-16 13:26:19
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answered by Anonymous
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