The curse of God on the infidels! 2:83
God is an enemy to infidels. 2:92
Whoever offers violence to you, offer you the like violence to him.
2:190
Fight for the cause of God. 2:245
God loves no infidel. 2:276
And when the sacred months are passed, kill those who join other gods
with God wherever you shall find them; and seize them, besiege them,
and lay wait for them with every kind of ambush: but if they shall convert,
and observe prayer, and pay the obligatory alms, then let them go their
way. 9:5
How can you say this is a peaceful religion?
2006-09-16
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Well, Ahmad, you are long winded, but does your Koran essentially negate the verses I have listed? If so, the Koran wouldn't be in accordance with itself, indicating contradiction. Something not usually allowed in any scripture.
2006-09-16
06:35:58 ·
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Well, Ahmad, you are long winded, but does your Koran essentially negate the verses I have listed? If so, the Koran wouldn't be in accordance with itself, indicating contradiction. Something not usually allowed in any scripture.
2006-09-16
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I have not heard Muslim leaders come out and condemn those Muslims who commit mass murder in the name of their God. If they are truly relegion of peace this is the time for them to speak."
The pope was right to say what he has said and
for such a peaceful religion the followers of Islam have a tendency to use “the threat of violence” when they don’t like what they hear.
If Muslims were as quick to publicly condemn the suicide bombers who cowardly kill and maim in the name of Islam, then maybe we'd start taking other things they whinge about more seriously.
Its ok for Islam to print, say and spread anti christian and anti semetic propaganda. As soon as someone writes a book, says anything or even draws a cartoon even remotely anti Islamic, the death threats and the bombings and the looting and sacking of embassies etc starts.
Here we go again! Dare to say anything which could be construed as criticism of Islam, and the usual bandwagon of vilification and hatred gets underway.
Why not wonder "why do people see us in this light; why do people say such things about us?" and seek to change perceptions?!
By giving the usual reaction, Muslims merely reinforce the stereotypical view - it perpetuates the vicious circle.
With all the ongoing crisis in the middle east, as far as I can see, the quote makes a valid point.
If Muslim world's anger can simply be aroused by a quote, it's probably time to get some anger management.
I am DEEPLY tired of the islamics throwing their hands up in horror every time someone even remotely criticises their religion, and yet they feel it is okay to savage anyone (figuratively and literally) that is not of their faith.
Tolerance works both ways; if they want non-islamics to accept them, then maybe they should try to accept that not every living thing wants to be a muslim.
'No real effort to understand Islam'. Oh boo-hoo-hoo. Since when was the onus suddenly on everyone else to understand Islam? People make judgements based on what they see and experience over time. What else is there to understand? Sounds like a spoilt teenager wailing 'no one understands me, I'm so special and unique'. Why doesn't Islam make more effort to understand why a fair number of people dislike it so much?
Instead of Muslims attacking the Pope on his statement, they should be stopping the terrorist groups etc. Why can Muslims sit back and say nothing about attacks in the west but shout with anger when someone questions there way of spreading Islam. Moderate muslims have to choose the sword or democracy there is no in between.
Simple question: Do records show that Mohammed did say something along these lines? Given how he behaved, the answer is probably yes.
Yet again, Muslims are trying to rewrite their own violent history, shutting down any *factual* discussion of history by pretending to be offended rather than countering arguments with facts and getting us to give up our own valuable freedom of speech.
I am not surprised that the Muslims are complaining, all they do. Even historical quotes seem to ruffle there feathers. Yet when they say anything about Christianity or the West we just sit there and take it.
They can only dish out criticism not take it.
How about all the scum that rant and rave on our streets about how evil the West is and openly rejoice in the events of 9/11, retract all their statements?
Once again the Muslims/Islam are having another cry about some words someone has said. This shows how weak Islam is as a religion, say or draw something and they get upset BORING. My faith and beliefs in my own religon transend any petty words or drawings....
Time for Islam to grow up and become part of the world community that we live in....
He was mentioning an historical fact. Islam is the only world religion who's so called "prophet of peace" spread his word by the sword. Did Jesus or Buddha ever take up arms and resort to violence? No. Any religion that leaves room for interpretation of violence, justifies suicide bombing and advocates the repression of women cannoty be viewed as a religion of peace. If Muslims wish us to view thier religion as peaceful then they need to learn tolerance of other views and stop their murdering.
Surely Islam's ridiculously disproportionate response to things such as this and the Mohammed cartoons will only tarnish Islam's image yet further?
For heavens sake. The muslims are upset AGAIN. Are these people really that childish and insecure that every single comment upsets them.
Wouldn't it be so nice to have even a couple of days out from this constant whingeing. What offends most here is that our lives are constantly dominated by this nonsense. Why don't these people grow up?
2006-09-16 06:35:47
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answered by wzr5gq20032000 1
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Please correct your references
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2:83 should be 2:89
2:92 should be 2:98 etc.
About 2:190
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Please read carefully. It also says
"Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loves not transgressors."
That means if infidels only injure Muslims, they are not allowed to harm more than that. Also if one infidel kills 10 Muslims, this verse orders them to kill only that ONE infidel not just any 10.
2:245 is having no new meanings than 2:190, it is just a reminder with explanation in next verses.
About 9:5
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It asks about those idolaters who made promises to help Muslims and later on not even broke their promises but also harmed or killed Muslims. Again the rule is same as 2:190 and if you notice 9:6, where it says "if some of them ask for your refuge, provide them with the refuge until they reach their destination save and sound".
Such a wonderful teaching. But alas Muslims do not act on that.
2006-09-16 07:22:26
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answered by LiebeMacher 3
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The Old Testament of the Bible is full of many acts of violence approved by God. Wars were fought and every man, women, child, and animal would be slaughtered as a result of it. Good thing bombs were not invented yet in those days.
The New Testament though teaches us to let go and leave it in Gods hands, through Jesus. Big change, no?
The Koran is based on Old Testament biblical scriptures, hence the allowance for personal vengeance and such.
2006-09-16 06:27:07
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I'de like you to explain the Crusades, what are these all about ????
Why Christians fight ???
What is the reason behind all of what USA , Europe and others do nowadays in islamic lands allover the world????
ok???
And I do admit that JIHAD (or striving for the path of Allah ) is a very important part of our religion like all religions
We should strive for the path of ALLAH (swt) to spread His religion
We should strive for the path of Allah to defend ourselves
We should strive for the path of Allah when we are attacked
What's wrong in that??? Tell me what you do in the same circumstances and what is your different concept in life according to your religion.???
what's differnt between this and the crusades???
Hope I get an answer.
Anyway , Thanks alot for letting me explain and clarify the truth of that for ISLAM as being totally peaceful does not mean not to defend or to be weak
Muslims became weak only when they left this part and the history testify .
They became weak when they imitated the people of the book in every little thing replacing their beautiful religion
with a worse one
2006-09-16 06:49:50
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2:83. And remember We took a covenant from the Children of Israel (to this effect): Worship none but Allah. treat with kindness your parents and kindred, and orphans and those in need; speak fair to the people; be steadfast in prayer; and practise regular charity. Then did ye turn back, except a few among you, and ye backslide (even now).
2:92 There came to you Moses with clear (Signs); yet ye worshipped the calf (Even) after that, and ye did behave wrongfully.
2:190 AND FIGHT in God's cause against those who wage war against you, but do not commit aggression-for, verily, God does not love aggressors.
2:245 Who is it that will offer up unto God a goodly loan, which He will amply repay, with manifold increase? For, God takes away, and He gives abundantly; and it is unto Him that you shall be brought back.
276. Allah will deprive usury of all blessing, but will give increase for deeds of charity: For He loveth not creatures ungrateful and wicked.
2006-09-16 06:22:22
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answered by Anonymous
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just look at ahmads answer. It tells you the context and everythign.
2006-09-16 06:30:46
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answered by mindcrazy11 2
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Wow!!!anothor copy-and-paste question, look at the context you idiot, it's talking about the war
2006-09-16 06:32:56
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Because it is not a religion of peace.
2014-09-30 17:30:04
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I know, that's what I've been talking about over the months. Islam isn't a peaceful religion at all.
2006-09-16 06:22:28
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Wow, it's just like Christianity after all.
2006-09-16 06:22:20
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answered by Anonymous
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