Dear old innocent Pope?

Question

This is REALLY annoying me.

Am I the only one who can see what's really going on here?

WHY DID THE POPE DELIBERATELY INCITE UNREST AND ANGER TO BILLIONS OF PEOPLE ?

THAT is the question.

The very idea that it was an 'innocent mistake' is so bloody ridiculous its pathetic. He had a script. He plans his speeches. He has advisers. He KNEW what he was doing, and knew that a fringe few would burn effigies. He also knew that the TV companies would love to film this. And he knew he could slip off-stage and let all this bile flow toward Islam.

Thank f*** I am not a christian or a muslim. WAKE UP AND SEE THE VILLAIN.

Just look at this picture - do you see kindness and compassion in those eyes?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/16092006/325/photo/pope-benedict-xvi.html

Answer 1

i agree... it smells alot like the .... 'iraq is harbouring weapons of mass distruction' and the subsiquent 'opps! perhaps they don't!'

it seems politics have become about saying what you want to achieve your agenda, and retracting it once that agenda is achieved. of course it doesn't matter after the fact....
in this instance clearly the pope needed to get a message out there, he got it out... achieved his aim... so can now retract the statement, because the retraction is in fact meaning less.

don't worry you're not alone... i think that the speculation regarding where this is all going, is no longer speculation. it is now fact, and only a question of time.

Answer 2

It would be lovely to hear some intelligent replies, but alas I hold out no hope.
My own view is that the Pope has been misrepresented and will maintain that viewpoint until I read/hear something to change my mind. I certainly won't start to rant vile anti religious nonsense which some people are doing (of course you will all have read the document in full and understood it to make your comments).
Shame on idiots who relate the Pope with the nazis, quite childish and cheap.

Answer 3

Yep, we can see you are neither a christian or a muslim from your question and where you stand. Yes, you apparently are the only one who is seeing what is going on here because you made it up.

The Pope was speaking to unite all religions, not to start anything.
Guess you didn't get the jist of the speech. And, he didn't deliberately insite anything. geez.

And by the way, when the former Islamic leader spoke in America last week in some huge christian churche and made mean remarks, did America do an uprising and burn him in effagy? heck no, we were smart enough, we just ignored the man.

Answer 4

Rubbish , anyone who does not offer deference to the Muslims is accused of "Insulting" Islam - I don,t for a minute think the Pope was being Provocative , but it seems to growing more and more part of our Lives that we witness the Muslims jumping up and down claiming they have been "Insulted" burning effigies of someone or issuing Fatwa,s. They are so Tiresom , they make me SICK

Answer 5

nicely, Ulfsark, allecat and a couple of others have it maximum suitable. As on your comments about the Pope and WWII, you educate that you recognize little about that era and his position. easily, you educate that you under no circumstances stricken to be sure! So I received't waste my time on that section. As for helping fairly undesirable human beings and activities, you would possibly want to do nicely to look at the different pagans and Atheists in history. try as you would possibly want to, you won't be able to blame Christians for something finished before about the middle of the 400s even as Christianity grew to develop into the State Church of Rome. all the atrocities of the Early Romans, Mongols and so on, were all finished by employing NON-Christians and for the most section, PAGANS! also, a goodly bunch of issues in a while also! i spotted quite some Atheists claiming to be "pagan" now-a-days also... nicely... now we may be able to upload Pol Pot, Stalin, Lenin, Castro, Mao and the leaders of maximum of Easter Europe from 1945 till the Iron Curtain fell. for my section, i don't like this pope, and fairly, fairly hated the only before, yet I refuse to lie about him regardless of the reality that.

Answer 6

I kinda agree, but you are presupposing competence on behalf of the Vatican, you seem to be saying - correct me if I'm getting it wrong - that no way could the speech writers have failed to anticipate the reaction of the Islamic world, so it must have been deliberately inflammatory. I dunno. The Catholic church has such arrogance - don't forget the doctrine of papal infallibility - that they may have really thought that the rest of the world would have gone 'Oh - yes, holy father, very good point you've got there..'
Even if his comments were made in all innocence and in the hope of generating healthy debate, I wonder that he can be so devoid of a sense of irony. Crusades? Inquisitions? Homophobia? Millions of deaths because of prohibition on contraception? Conversion through intimidation and violence? Pot? Kettle? Black?

Answer 7

Again, I stand my ground that this Pope is not a peoples' person and he just was not aware of the misunderstanding his statements would take. I am sure that his aides and close personal friends knew exactly the backwash his statements would take, but, of course, who could convince that the pope of what he was doing was wrong. He is following the shoes of Saint Peter, the first pope and God's rock on this earth. "What you say on earth is bound in heaven, what you do on earth on is did in heaven".

Answer 8

Both the catholic and muslim religions are false religions that have horribly twisted the true meaning of the Scriptures throughout history in many ways. May be we should consider forming a new religion with a better understanding of the Bible to replace the false religions of the world. Tell me if you don't think elijah3's posts in the Immortality Institutes forum on "why money doesn't bring happiness" doesn't have the right idea? Checkout his posts at:

http://www.imminst.org/forum/index.php?s=&act=ST&f=179&t=11517&st=40&#entry130970

http://www.imminst.org/forum/index.php?s=&act=ST&f=179&t=11517&st=40&#entry131005

http://www.imminst.org/forum/index.php?s=&act=ST&f=179&t=11517&st=40&#entry131227

http://www.imminst.org/forum/index.php?s=&act=ST&f=179&t=11517&st=40&#entry131238

http://www.imminst.org/forum/index.php?s=&act=ST&f=179&t=11517&st=40&#entry131279

Answer 9

the pope is just human,
and as the head of a religion, pissed off about all the attacks and slayings in christian houses of worship by fundamental muslin's in the middle east, so trying to get all to be "friends" again, by saying the wrong thing.
wouldn't you be pissed if you where the leader of a large religious group and you congregation kept getting killed by the other religion?
why is it okay knock the spiritual leaders of every religion apart from Islam?
all gods being equal in human eyes in a top trumps card sort of way?

the villain is the person who twists the interptation to suit their arguement.

Answer 10

The Pope only said what many other people who have studied the origins and history of Islam were thinking.

QUITE COURAGEOUS I WOULD SAY.

It seems the insane reaction proves the remarks to be correct.