Wasn't the Pope right to say what he did - WHEN HE DID !!! ?

Question

Isn't he right to quote this ancient figure criticising Mohammed ?
Doesn't he have a really pertinent point about Jehad and violence ?
Isn't this the same religion that advocates 'honour killings' - which I cannot see can be right ethically in any creed. It certainly doesn't make sense genetically to keep a race pure - that causes inbreeding and weakens the immune system.

Isn't it about time the world 'got real' about religion? Anyone with half a brain knows that religion (with the possible exception of Taoism and Buddhism) is just a way of 'controlling the masses' from our own Witch Finder General to this Jehad business.

Why can't we just accept that the 'why are we here' question may never get answered and indeed if it did - would we be satisfied with the answer ?

We've got young people now blowing theirselves up - for what ? So they can prove their right and the rest of us are wrong ? What a waste of a life - never mind all the people that are kill and hurt around them !

Should not the UN and other organisations - start to deal with this religion issue once and for all ? How can we possibley progress as a species if we are constantly going to argue about the identity of something we don't know exists or not - why, instead - do we not try to clarify our OWN identity as a species - instead of all this ridiculous infighting ?

Answer 1

Christians/Catholics love to incite violence just as much as the Muslims do...both religions breed bloodthirsty defenders of God and both religions will be to blame when this world is turned into a nuclear fireball ...and no, the nuclear fireball will not be an act of God, it will be an act of religious idiots.

All we can truly hope for is that Christians and Muslims will throughly murder each other while the Atheists and Agnostics hide in a hole...hopefully to emerge as the dominant authority on true morality, morality which does not require idiots to murder each other over stupid books like the bible and koran.

Destroying religion will be the first step toward real peace in this world...luckily the religions will mostly destroy each other and all the higher evolved among the human race needs to do is step in to deliver the final blows...to both religions.

After this next round of murder for books takes place, the non-religious should ensure that it is the LAST time idiots commit mass murder for their stupid little god books.

Amen!!

Answer 2

Well Hidhaya just explained to me that my assumptions were correct after all. - I now know that the nation of Islam is nothing more than a religious-political sect that wants world dominance. The bottom line in what he pointed out is that we all must convert to Islam, pay them money if we don't, or die. Now I understand why the 'majority' of Muslims will not do anything about their 'minority' extremists: they condone it. They only scoff at the part that the offer to pay taxes isn't mentioned before the killings.

What person with half a brain would believe any human that states that they are the "last prophet of the universe"? Gandhi came long after Muhammed and I would much prefer to believe him to be a prophet than Muhammed. It sounds to me like Muhammed was nothing more than an ancient form of today's idealists. Bush is one of those idealists who believe that all countries should live under a democratic society. If any country does not wish to follow these guidelines, then they must adhere to sanctions, and if they don't wish to abide by the sanctions, then they will become a democracy by force. And it will be a cold day in hell before I ever consider Bush to be a prophet.

Closed-minded hatred and ignorance will always exist. What needs to be done is for the Pope to not apologize for reading something that was writtern long before he existed, especially if what he read goes in line with his own personal feelings. Yes, the Christian religion has its own brutal and bloody PAST, but they no longer kill on the mass levels that Muslims do. Why? Because people started standing up for themselves and what was right.

Enough is enough. It's time that we look at the 'nice' Muslims and tell them that they can continue to believe how they choose, but they better not try to convert any of us or stand in our way when we protect ourselves from their extremists.

Religion is the "opiate of the masses", true, but there will always be social institutions that gather like-minded individuals. Some people need to feel a part of something. I agree that it would be easier if the verbal wars over our initial existence where done away with, but again, that will not happen because humans are curious by nature. What you are proposing would be a universal law that forbids any group from forcing their beliefs onto others, I have no problem with that. Then again, who is to be the enforcer of that law? For every possible solution to a problem another problem arises. I just say, protect your own and stop worrying about all that political correctness.

My life and the lives of my children are much more important to me than any extremist, religious or political, who wishes to be nothing more than a domineering chauvenistic hate-mongoring bigot. Perhaps we should just mind our own business and live and let live, so long as our freedom to live is not subjected to violence from another. Then we should all have the right to defend ourselves, even if it is just verbally, no matter who it upsets.

Answer 3

The pope was perfectly justified in quoting an ancient manuscript, he does it quite frequently (it's called mass). What i found absolutely repellent was the reaction - you burn a church because someone intimated that you might belong to a violent, fascistic cult? Once again the frailty of this religion is exposed through the actions of its adherents. I can insult Christians all day long (and frequently do) and they will smile and say 'god bless' yet to assault this manipulative and primitive sect is to somehow cause an injury from which they can not recover. It's actually more pathetic than aggravating and I've got plenty of aggravation.

Answer 4

If he is a bigot then it may have been the right thing to say.

If not then it was probably not the smartest move he ever made.

If you read the bible it is filled with the same kinds of hate messages.

Religion is a lie that people tell about God. Something that we need to overcome if we are ever going to live in peace like Jesus asked us to do.

To do this we need to focus on our similarities not the few differences we can dream up.

Love and blessings
don

Answer 5

i think that the pope - with all respect - has the freedom of speech as a person, not as a head of the catholic church, he a simply cannot say that about 25% percent of the worlds population, i think it's just another way of waging a war, to back up the 9/11 war, and not mentioning the crusades in the middle ages, where the pope sent enormous armies under the name of "the holy war" to occupy the "holy" land, and take from it's own people, it's just a bunch of bullshit.
P.S. : it's another sign of armmageddon my friend.

Answer 6

Actually, Pope must learn The Holy Quran and the life of Prophet Muhammed in details. The power of Islam is not depend on troops nor equipments moreover The Prophet Mohammed never taught to muslim you all have the right to kill everyone who not believe Islam. He said very clearly "Allah send me as the last Prophet for Universe".Islam never start any attack on other religion or its believers but who insult Islam or the law of Allah muslims have to explain them briefly first, if they accept Islam no need to fight against them if not they want to stay in their religion they have to pay special tax (Jizya),if they refuse to pay tax muslims must fight against them. The meaning of Jihad is very simple, there is no compromising in Islam.Muslims are bond by the rules of Islam.Muslims never tend to start any violence against other religions but they have a duty to send the message of truth to unbelievers because Allah wants all humankind escape from hell.So please don,t insult Islam or The Prophet Mohammed.

Answer 7

The Pope may have been right and his timing might have been good. However, there are many ways to express the same idea, and the Pope is obviously not very skilled as a diplomat.

Answer 8

BaitersinSpace,
As far as I know, the emperor was right Zoroaster tried to spread the word by the sword.

Remember what Jesus did when Peter drew his sword? That was different. He healed the guy who got hurt.

It's just that Muslims are children of the devil. Sorry to say that but look at them. They think that it's okay to kill Jews. Just like Hitler. They think that a country that isn't theirs should belong to them, just like Hitler. A cartoon sends them into a frenzy, just like .. . . . who does that anyway except them, hmmm a demon possessed maniac.

When a suicide bomber blows himself up, it in itself is not a waste of life. He needed to be killed anyway.

Answer 9

the problem is with the word Jihad and it's interpretation. The Prophet could have meant the struggle within when using this word. But it may also be interpreted that the religion should be spread by the sword

Answer 10

It's free speach! He has every right to say what he did. Muslim's take everything to seriously and the Pope was just stating a fact. If Muslim's insult Christian's we don't go around blowing them up!