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islam prevailing with fastest speed and muslim respect jesus.............

2006-09-15 21:06:52 · 12 answers · asked by zikrullah 1 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

..............................why do they not see popularity of islam?

2006-09-15 21:15:08 · update #1

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Peter's Primacy In Scripture
by Fr. William Most

‘16:13-20: Promise of the primacy to Peter’: Jesus did not ask what people were saying out of ignorance - even without the vision in His soul He would likely have known. But He was leading up to the important question of who they said He was. Peter speaks for the whole group, and says Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of the living God. Jesus says Peter knew this by revelation from His Father.

How much did Peter really know? It is evident He knew Jesus was the Messiah. But did Peter have the right notion of the Messiah? His attempt to dissuade Jesus from suffering seems to indicate Peter had the false idea, that of a military conqueror. What did Peter mean by the "Son of the Living God."? This could mean divinity, and many have thought so. Yet it would not have to be such, even though Peter had a revelation. That revelation might have given him some idea of the identity of Jesus without being a full and clear picture. The fact that Peter denied Jesus later would fit with this, although if Peter had learned by way of an interior locution Peter might have had a clear message at the start, which later, by the time of the death of Jesus, had faded, and so Peter could deny Him. In an interior locution, it is as if God touches the brain of the person and can convey even a large amount of information at one touch. That seems to have been the case with St. Paul on the Damascus road vision, for the words spoken by the vision then were few, and did not cover all of basic Christianity - yet later (Gal 1:12) Paul said He did learn Christianity from that vision. About the possibility of fading certitude - St. Teresa of Avila in her ‘Life’ 25 wrote (I. p. 741, ‘Obras Completas’, B. A. C. Madrid, 1951): When God speaks in this way, "the soul has no remedy, even thought it displeases me, I have to listen and to pay such full attention to understand that which God wishes us to understand that it makes no difference if we want it or not. For He who can do everything wills that we understand, and we have to do what He wills." But in ‘Interior Castle’ 6. 3. 7 (ibid, II, p 426): "these words do not pass from the memory after a very long time" but "When time has passed since heard, and the workings and the certainty it [the soul] had that it was God has passed, doubt can come." And so Peter might have known the divinity of Jesus at this occasion, but later the certitude had vanished.

Some Protestants even today try to claim verses 17-19 -- with the promise of primacy - were just a late interpolation, and not part of the original text. There is simply no manuscript evidence at all to support this notion. Rather, it shows how clearly these Protestants perceive the real meaning of the words, so that they feel driven to such an extreme as to propose, without any foundation, a claim of interpolation.

Special attention in such a charge is given to the word ‘Church’. Now the Greek ‘ecclesia’ is rare in the Gospels, though common in St. Paul. If we omitted this word, we would have a Messiah without a messianic community - a thing unthinkable to current Jewish ideas.

The ‘Anchor Bible’ commentary on Matthew by W. F. Albright and C. S. Mann, two good Protestants, rejects the interpolation charge flatly, and admits a Catholic interpretation of the words about the rock: . . "one must dismiss as confessional interpretation [based on denominational views] an attempt to see this rock as meaning the faith, or the Messianic confession of Peter." The evangelical ‘Expositor's Bible Commentary’ agrees with Albright and Mann, but then tries to claim ( pp. 373-74) that Peter was not given special authority - all Christians had the same. And it asserts that "binding and loosing" meant merely preaching the Lutheran error on justification by faith - that would forgive sins. (similar comments by many Protestants on the grant of power to forgive in John 20).

Their claims are very false. First of all, one should try to see what the text means, not read things into it. They are reading into Matthew the error of Luther. - This is ‘eisegesis’! - Luther thought justification by faith meant just confidence that the merits of Christ apply to me - then one could sin as freely as he wanted, and no harm. Luther even said in Epistle 501 to Melanchthon: "Even if you sin greatly, believe still more greatly." And in another letter to Melanchton, August 1, 1521 (‘Works’ 48. 181-82) he said that even if one commits fornication and murder 1000 times a day, it will not separate him from Christ. Justification itself according to Luther made no change in a person: he remained totally corrupt, with the merits of Christ, like a cloak, thrown over him. But 2 Peter 1:4 says we are made sharers in the divine nature, for we are sons of God (1 Jn. 3:2)and so partake of the nature of the Father. And 1 Cor 3:16 and 6:19 says we are temples of the Holy Spirit - who would not dwell in total corruption. 1 Cor 13:12 He has already given us the first payment, the Spirit, in our hearts (1 Cor 1:22). When the veil of flesh is removed we will see Him face to face: 1 Cor 13:12 says in heaven we see God face to face. God has no face, the soul no eyes, but it means we will know Him directly. When I see you, I do not take you into my head, I take in an image of you. But no image could show God as He is. So there must be no image - so God joins Himself directly to the soul without even an image in between. He would not do that with a totally corrupt soul. As Malachi 3:2 says: "Who can stand when He appears? For He is like a refiner's fire."

Besides, the words "bind and loose" have no reference to such a distortion. They were current in the days of Christ, and by them the rabbis meant to give an authoritative decision on what was right or wrong. And only the authorities could give such a decision - not just every Christian as the Protestants would have it.

Protestants like to add an appeal to Mt 18:18 to say the power is given to all Christians. But in context, it speaks of a decision of the church, the ‘ecclesia’, not of each individual. But if we put it into the framework of a trajectory, the picture is clear. We begin with Luke 10:16, "He who hears you hears me." It is true, this was not spoken only to the Twelve. But as we said, the trajectory clarifies the picture. Mt 18:18 on which we have spoken cannot refer to all Christians precisely because there is a question of authority to declare what is right and wrong -- in Jewish thought, that belonged only to the Rabbis, not to all. At the Last Supper, according to John 13:20, Jesus said: "Amen, amen, I say to you, he who receives the one I send, receives me; he who receives me, receives the One who sent me." The thought is like that of Luke 10:16, but at the Last Supper there were only the Apostles present. Then Mt 28:16-29 in which He says all power is given Him in heaven and on earth, is explicitly spoken to the Eleven, who are sent to teach or to make disciples. We could add that the early Church definitely understood the grant of authority to just the Apostles. In Acts 1:15-26 a replacement is chosen for one of the Twelve, for Judas. Acts 2:42 reported that the people "devoted themselves to the teaching of the Apostles", and in Acts 5:13: "No one of the rest dared to join himself to them [the Apostles] but the people magnified them."

The Protestants not only misunderstand things, but claim that Matthew is entirely clear - all Scripture is entirely clear, according to them. In that they contradict Scripture, for 2 Peter 3:15-16 tells us that in St. Paul's Epistles, "there are many things hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction." Protestant twisting of this passage surely fits what Peter's Epistle said.

And of course from the start the Church has understood the Scripture far differently from the Protestant distortion, as we just saw in the verses from Acts. Then Pope Clement I, writing to Corinth c 95 AD. claimed authority over Corinth. St. Irenaeus, who had heard St. Polycarp tell what he heard from the Apostle John, said that "the faithful who are everywhere must agree with this church [Rome] because of its more important principality." Very different from saying every Christian forgives sin by preaching a false doctrine of "justification" - that leaves one totally corrupt - by faith. In the early heresies it was the Pope's decision that counted, e. g., at Ephesus in 431 AD. the Bishops heard the decision of Pope Celestine, and replied "He [Peter] lives even to this time, and always in his successors gives judgment."

Some have tried to suppose verses 17-19 are retrojection, something spoken after Easter, retrojected to this spot. We distinguish. If they mean the whole passage was retrojected, that would be impossible - for after the resurrection Jesus would not ask who people say He is, nor would Peter merely say He was Messiah -- an understatement by then.

If we were to suppose just verses 17-19 were retrojected, that would not be impossible, but there is no evidence. What of the fact that Mark does not have these words? We may conjecture: Mark wrote from the preaching of Peter, as even Martin Hengel of Tübingen admits (‘Studies in the Gospel of Mark’, tr. J. Bowden, Philadelphia, 1985, p. 29). As a matter of modesty, Peter might not have preached at Rome about his own authority.

The word ‘rock’ is merely a play on words. In Aramaic there is no difference between the word for rock and Kepha, Peter.

The gates of hell could mean the gates of death, but more naturally mean the powers of hell. They will not prevail. So if the Church founded by Christ had taught the wrong way to salvation for most of 1500 years, until Luther, the promises of Christ would be practically worthless. Nor could one dodge and say a few held on to the true meaning. No evidence at all for that. And even so, the Church as such, as identifiable, would have been in gross error until a grossly immoral Luther was sent by God to correct it!

"Keys" of course signified power to rule, as is obvious.

2006-09-15 21:14:54 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

islam mite prevail wid the fastest speed. and as a christian, i do respect islam for many muslims propagate peace, give alms, etc.
but i also believe that no religion is flawless (including mine)
the bitter truth is tht islam is causing a lot of prob. altho the pope is a very vulnerable person, with war raging on from ur side u r in no position to challenge him.

2006-09-16 04:54:16 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Pope and Catholic Church

The Great Whore of Revelation

Pope influences world leaders because of her religious power

Virgin Mary
primarily represented by a woman instead of Jesus Christ
carrying a golden chalice, significant to her identity

Worship false idols abominations, primarily idols

Pope wears cape, robe, gown
clothed in purple and scarlet
(remember And they stripped him, and put on him a scarlet robe (Jesus Cross)

waxed exceedingly riches, Gold, and Jewelry (rosary)

The Whore Riding the Scarlet Beast

She is clearly identified as a "CITY" (not a nation or country) eight (8) times in Revelation 17 and 18. Her location, as a CITY, is obvious to anyone who understands history. Therefore she is a CITY that:

1) has a Christian religious heritage,
2) is waxed exceedingly rich,
3) has the blood of Saints and Martyrs on her hands,
4) has tremendous political and religious influence throughout the world,
5) is clothed in purple and scarlet,
6) is located near the Mediterranean Sea,
7) is full of abominations, primarily idols,
8) is heavily adorned with gold and jewels,
9) is primarily represented by a woman instead of Jesus Christ,
10) is carrying a golden chalice, significant to her identity,
11) influences world leaders because of her religious power,
12) sits on seven mountains or hills.

2006-09-16 04:22:36 · answer #3 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

Muslims are raised from early childhood to revere the prophet Muhammad and to honor him highly. They are commanded to hold his honor more dear than their own lives or those of their family members. Even "secular" Muslims who do not practice Islam, who hardly ever perform the daily prayers and live a thoroughly non-religious life will usually respond immediately when confronted with any critique of the person of Muhammad. Any critical remark about Muhammad is worse than an insult to their own person. This is religiously and culturally conditioned. Therefore, I plead for sensitivity in the use of this information on the level of personal encounter. Do not use it for accusing and attacking Muslims in personal confrontation. It will destroy relationships. In many Islamic countries the death penalty is executed on those who insult Muhammad. In western countries, where this is not possible, it is still going to cause intense conflict if used as direct attack.

However, I am firmly convinced, all Muslims eventually need to deal with the history and sources of their religion. I think it is fair to calmly ask them to give their personal response on the teaching of the Quran regarding war against unbelievers, and about the example that Muhammad has set in dealing with critics of his person in his own life. But it might be best to postpone such questioning for some time, until the emotions have calmed down somewhat. Nobody who feels attacked or pressured (and Muslims feel this way now, due to the black color Islam is painted in everywhere these days), will be open to ponder even sincere questions, but build up inner or outer defense walls, or even explode in anger. Nothing is won by pressing this issue NOW with your personal Muslim friends, neighbors, co-workers, or aquaintances. Now we need to stand united with Muslims who are in shock just as everyone else and in opposition to this terror and support them in their opposition, without attacking the very foundation of their life.

God have mercy on us all

2006-09-16 04:16:15 · answer #4 · answered by Akmal Zaidi 4 · 0 0

U need to learn the english language first to ask a question. Your question does not make sense.

2006-09-16 04:27:27 · answer #5 · answered by Thumper 2 · 0 0

im not sure as to what you are trying to communicate here but im guessing that you are as pissed off at the pope as i am. he just sucks.

2006-09-16 04:09:28 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

This is what the pope says to that
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2006-09-16 04:09:10 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

ISLAM PREVAILS....
WHAT A JOKE!!

2006-09-16 04:09:36 · answer #8 · answered by grrrrr 1 · 0 1

islam is the best... and the only religion...

2006-09-16 04:55:23 · answer #9 · answered by uci 2 · 0 0

Load of crap

2006-09-16 04:11:52 · answer #10 · answered by Pauline 5 · 0 0

try again

2006-09-16 04:10:02 · answer #11 · answered by NOIZE 4 · 0 0

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