Does anyone have a good argument against Gay Marriage that isn't religious in nature?

Question

It seems like most of the arguments involve God or the Bible, ect.

I was wondering if there were any good arguments for stripping Gays of the right to be married?

For those who say it's a religious ceremony, please be aware that not all religions or their interpretations of religious texts forbid gay marriage, and that the government does indeed recognize straight marriage even though it could be argued it's religious in nature also.

So Regina, you're saying that because you don't want to talk to your kids about homosexuals, that homosexuals shouldn't get married?

Have they ever seen an unmarried couple? Or a smoker? Or an alchoholic?

You're basically saying your uncomfortableness trumps their right to get married. That's a bit selfish, don't you think?

What if I didn't want to tell my kids about religion so I supported laws that forbid people from practicing Christianity, ect.?

Isolde, that democracy is based upon manipulation of religious attitudes.I don't buy a violation of civil rights based upon a mass prejudicial and oppresitory vote.

Answer 1

Some people against it say that it weakens traditional marriage as an institution and opens the door for lawsuits in allowing other
kinds of marriage like polygamy or with animals, etc...that society needs to follow what has always been done.

Some people feel a gay agenda to teach this is a normal lifestyle is not age appropriate, threatens their parental training, and does not belong in school.

You can't deny if all chose this, the species would die out (unless artificial means of conception took place).

These are some of the arguments put forth by
James Dobson in his Focus on the Family audience of 5+ million.

Coming from the perspective of a born again Christian, my thinking has evolved in the last few years.;

I have come to free this is a civil issue and if the constitution says we are all equal, this would be depriving gay people of their civil rights as Americans. I certainly think the country has a lot more to worry about than gay marriage, and though people say gay marriage threatens their marriages, in fact, this is not usually the case.

IWhen discussing gay marriage vs. domestic partnerships. I actually think perhaps gay marriage is better than partnership benefits as it makes it a strong and real commitment of the partners which lessons abuse of the system in people living together who are not involved in gay sex but are seeking to gain benefits by pretending.

It is actually more cost effective, I'd say, than parterships from an insurance stand point. Many gays do not wish to marry and so it would be cheaper with gay marriage as far as beneifits.

It also grants protection to the spouse left in event of let's say an affair so they can legally get what is due them such as proper splitting of assets, child support (if applicable), alimony, etc.


Only those with a firm commitment will get the rights just like in heterosexual relationship which seems better than domestic partnerships. I think marriage will be better for those gays with children as it will be more difficult to break up the partnership than with no marriage. It makes children in these gay relationships feel more like a "real" family.

To be honest, my new thinking surprises me as I did not think like this a few years ago..my kids say I have come a long way.
I wanted to post to say that though I am not totally comfortable with gay matrriage, not all Christinas (and I am a fundamentalist, evangelical, very spiritual person) feels the same way. Some Christian's hostle and judgemental attitudes do not well represent the true spirit of Christianity and cause hatred for an entire group of people (christians) who are sterotyped as all being intolerant.

I feel ibeing gay may not be a choice given the vast amounts of estrogenic hormones used in our food supply and in estrogenic herbicides that have leeched into ground water.

Studies have correlated these hormones with homosexual behavior in animals (as well as the rise in reproductive cancers like prostrate, breast etc and the change in puberty (menarche used to be age 13 (average) when I started in the 60's, now it is 9 which is a huge change in such a short time). These hormones used by companies are said to be unbalancing human hormon systems and I feel at least some of the gay people are gay due to these environmental factors.

Further studies show the hormones/brain chemistry of gay men more closely resembles that of straight women than straight men. This suggests being gay may be genetic, hormonal, environmental, etc and not a choice. If it is not a choice, it would be wrong to deny a person of a full life, civil rights, etc

Though you didn't want religion brought in this, I wish to add that if it is a choice and a sin, we are no longer under the law, but grace and Jesus has forgiven the sins of those who are saved and he is not mad anymore.

We have all sinned..all sin is abhorrent to God, and we are saved through faith not works less any man should boast.

We are told not to judge and to look to the beam in our own eye and who has not done wrong. Christians need to re-evaluate their thinking and remember we are called to love and treat others as we ourselves wish to be treated.

Answer 2

Well, there are some, though you may not find them much more credible. For example, it is sometimes argued that it is in the interests of the state to encourage reproduction where the children are cared for, so many of the benefits accorded to married people are on the presumption that they will be reproducing. As back up for this, it is argued that children do best when they have a permanent male and a female parental role model, so it is also in the interest of children to have one parent of each gender. Of course, these arguments tend to ignore all the miserable failures of marriages that are not automatically dissolved by the state. If these things were part of the state's interest, it would be just as much in their interest to make sure they had two admirable, loving parents, instead of just a male and a female one, and to end all marriages that aren't producing or raising a stream of children. There are other directions you might go as well. Even if we allow all kinds of marriages, it doesn't mean that they will be recognized in other countries. And in some very strictly religious countries, our allowance of such things could conceivably even strain relations and make our citizenry as a whole unwelcome. And there is the slightly spurious argument that if nobody engaged in heterosexual intercourse, the human race would die out one generation later. While this is arguably true, it is certainly not a likely risk! Eric, the evolutionary claim is completely false. Look up 'biological altruism' to see a number of examples of how non-reproducing creatures can improve the survival of their species. Some have even argued that homosexual people, because they spend less time and energy raising children, can insted turn their efforts toward developing art and science for the rest of us. Think about how many prominent figures of this sort have been gay, compared to the general population...

Answer 3

It really boils down to the fact that adopting 'effeminate' spirits for men is a sin. I don't judge since I'm working on a few rough spots but our flesh lusts against the Holy Spirit(truth). God wants the Spirit to rule the flesh not let the flesh rule the Spirit. It's a battle, I know. Couldn't you be just good friends with someone and not risk condemnation?

Answer 4

yes- it is completly unnatural, it is not a disease, and people and society have made a name up for those whose thoughts wondered just a little too far

more people are becoming gay because it is becoming more common and once people think their thought about the same gender are not in it alone, they start thinking they are gay, and eventually turn to convincing themselves that they are gay, leading them to become in essesnce, gay

but the truth is, at one point in everyones life, they could love someone of the same gender, that is fine
however, it is society that doesnt allow this
if ur a guy u cannot be just friends with a guy that is a really good friend
if they hug or show emotion towards each other- they are carogorized as gay without a second thought

gay people are just people led the wrong way

Answer 5

i do

my kids shouldn't have to see that for their eyes and ears are innocent

and when they do see it as my 6 yr old has recently they ask questions that im not ready to answer

how is it fair that they are putting me in this kind of position where she is too young to fully understand but yet i have to answer her in some way or another


well religion and smoking and all that is soo much different than gay or les.
my daughter is very bright and started asking if a mommy and daddy make a baby then how will 2 daddys do it? and then there the all famous why this why that

i should not have to go through this with my child at such a young age, neither should my daughter

and as far as smoking---alot of ppl don't want their child subjected to smoke so they keep it away and tell them its bad and along with all those other things u mentioned so u want me to tell my daughter that its wrong and no good and raise a hater?

Answer 6

Make all forms of marriage legal not matter what kinds of marriage they are.

Polygyny, Polyandry, Polyamorous Marriages, Opened-ended Marriages, and so many other types...make them all legal.

It is prejudicial to focus on one perversion of marriage and not consider the others. The laws of America do not allow for prejudicial interpretation of the law. Make all forms legal or drop the issue.

Answer 7

shut up no one cares if you are gay..go do your boyfriend or something. you cant put limitations on that question because it is religious marriage is between a man and woman if you dont like it dont be gay or enter into a civil union

Answer 8

gay relationships are against nature and any thing unnatural no matter how many courts or assemblies allow it will never be moral or manageable....remember like poles repel each other and unlike poles attract each other....so pls avoid unnatural acts...

Answer 9

Yea but im not gay or anything but that is violating a persons freedom, to marry whoever they want what sex they want.

Answer 10

Democracy. In every state where the people voted, they have rejected it. If the people don't want it, why force it on them?