OK WAIT A MINUTE!!!! what do all you people think ur talking about saying the baby is squirming around in the woman! Us guys have to carry millions of baby's around with us since we hit puberty. and dont tell me giving birth is hard either cuz so is ejaculating. its the same thing except we do a million at a time while u only do once maybe twice in your life. Im sick of all u estrogene crazed women complaining about the horrible trials u have to go through. we've had that baby in us longer than u have. so men should have the right to say whether they want the abortion to happen or not.
2006-09-15 15:45:49
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answered by Anonymous
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I've nothing against men's right to have a say, but the issue here is that the woman has the right to have the child. You see, a child is not a thing or an accident, it's a person with a heart, a spirit and a soul that his or her mother would like to connect to. This is all about a mother's value--it means everything to her.
Let me ask you another question: is it fair to ask someone to kill her baby if she wants to have it?
I agree, "don't have sex is not the point". But see, "being charged monthly for the fruit of a plant you accidentally grew" is not the point either. Abortion is a permanent "solution" to a temporary problem. I put it in quotes because the solution is really an illusion. If you feel that supporting a child for the next 18 years will be too much for you, NEGOTIATE. Sit down with the mother and figure out a solution as to what both of you can do to increase her income so that having this child won't be a financial burden to you.
(I may know some ways of doing that, but that'll be too much to answer here... contact me if you want to know more.)
Btw, child support may not be avoidable at least for the first year while she does something about her income... in that case, be honest about how this might be a problem for you, what needs to happen so that the child can be covered but that you're not burdened so badly, and invite her to get her creative juices running and help you out with this.
An expecting mother is usually very emotional, so let her speak uninterruptedly, listen carefully to her (even if she says things that you don't feel are right), and acknowledge her feelings as valid. You will have your turn to speak and then you may request that she listens to you and considers your feelings too. If you maintain a supportive attitude, you will win her cooperation as well. You will find that it is possible after all to have what you both want.
A final note: in case of unplanned pregnancies, the person who wants the child should have the final say. Going ahead with abortion when one parent wants the child will make the parent who wants the child suffer for the rest of their life. Real life says: you can't pretend "it never happened".
2006-09-15 15:46:49
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answered by Mizz G 5
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It does not matter how the women gets pregnant. Even if she tricks the man into it by poking a hole in the condom. It is still her body and a life that didn't have a choice. In my opinion if the women wants the baby and the man does not then he can give up rights and she can take the role on herself. If you can not be responsible for a child or chose not to you should not have sex. Condoms DO break and birth control is not always effective. Common sense. It's men like you that make all the wonderful men out there that have the gull to take responsibility for their actions look bad. And how many of them do you think were raised by a single mother???? Don't get me wrong. I know there are tons of great single dads out there. My hat goes off to each and everyone of you. That's a true man.
2006-09-15 16:49:30
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answered by Amber 1
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first of all let me say that abortion is wrong period rather the mother or father wants it..it is not the babies fault that two people were not smart enough to wear protection or take a pill.if one person out of a relationship is not mature enough to protect themselves then they are not mature enough to have sex!now let me answer your question of why a boy(i say boy cause no male that can just say abort the "accident" is a man)has no say so if he wants the baby aborted is because if they did.. can you imagine how screwed up this world would be...guys would not even worry about protection cause they would think oh well if i have an "accident" ..or if i am a sorry boy who doesnt wanna pay child support i can just get rid of it..now on the other hand a MAN who was against a girl getting an abortion is another thing...they should have the right to be able to raise that baby.the girl should have to deal with the fact that she was not mature enough to protect herself and after the child is born sign over rights to the father...bottom line is the best thing that everyone could do is stop being stupid and use protection...one time you are gonna get a bigger problem then having an "accident"you are gonna get AIDS... and you are not gonna be able to do anything about it....
2006-09-15 15:56:08
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answered by noseyroseysillywillie 3
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In some states they do have a say... but when they have no say in the matter it's probably because:
1. It is the woman who has to give birth to the child and carry it for nine months (which may potentially ruin her life- if not prepared for it)
2. The woman is the one that is left with the child if the husband decides to leave.
3. If the men don't pay child support after they leave... she is screwed.
--Men could say, "have the child i'll be here for you"- then a few months later - they'd leave... when it was too late for the mother to change her mind--
If the guy wants a say in the matter- they should be close to the mother and talk about it.
2006-09-15 15:35:57
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answered by Chrys 2
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The point is this---it is the woman who carries the child. If she doesn't want to, she has an outlet to not. You cannot force her to carry that child. It isn't always fair, but that is how it goes.
Now, the "well don't then don't have sex" statement is true to an extent. Sex is somethign people do with other people before even knowing what their intentions are about children--because having sex puts you at risk for pregnancy no matter what form of birth control is being used. Nothing is 100% effective, except abstinence. That becomes an issue AFTER the pregnancy test goes positive--particularly if you are not married.
People who advocate for abstinance of sex until marriage get bashed, but they have a point. You need to know a person before you commit yourself to certain thngs that can change your life irrevocably.
That is what being an adult is all about. It isn't pretty all the time, nor is it fair but that is the reality.
2006-09-15 19:11:26
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answered by sidnee_marie 5
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I guess because it's not your body that is pregnant. And if you force someone to carry a child they don't want, then that is like holding someone prisoner. I agree that the man should have a right to voice his desire or lack of for an abortion. I think if the man does not agree on an abortion, they should not be held liable for the entire abortion fee. As far as child support, I think a man should be responsible for a child, within reason. I do not think that he should work 2 jobs, have to quit college just to pay an huge amount. But I think that a woman should be just as responsible to that child as the man. In other words, she should supply just as much support as the man. Not welfare either. If the man has to work to support that child so should the woman. And if the man raises the child, then the woman should pay him support. What is good for the gander is good for the goose!!!
2006-09-15 15:43:20
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answered by PSL 2
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Well, I think the man SHOULD have a say in it, if he WANTS the child. It's his child too, but most often, if a man doesn't WANT the abortion, he's also not willing to raise the child himself. I mean, a guy could ask a woman not to 'kill' his child if that's the way he felt, but he can't expect her to raise it. He'd have to follow through and be that child's custodial parent and she'd have to pay support.
If he wanted the woman to abort the child and she didn't want that...sorry 'bout his luck. He may have to pay support, but she's the one walking the floor at night, and RAISING the kid. It's not the child's fault that BOTH of it's parents conceived it accidentally. It sounds to me like you need to grow up and realize that this is a human being. A CHILD. YOUR child. This is not a puppy that you can take back, or drop at the shelter. If you have a child, it is your responsibility to do right by it.
It is DEFINITELY NOT like being charged for fruit you didn't ask for. How would you feel if your parents told you they wished they'd aborted you, and shouldn't have to support you because you were an accident and they had better things to do, than raise your little a...?
2006-09-15 15:34:04
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answered by Lisa E 6
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You gave up your rights to what happens when you agreed to have unprotected sex. You had the opportunity to cover your little soldier/sailor before entering the woman, now you want rights. She gets to say what happens to her body, not you. So you have to pay for what she decides, especially if her decision says she is going to have the baby. You made your choice at the beginning, first to have sex, 2nd to not use a condom. So you don't want to be a daddy, carry condoms, wear condoms. Sam's Wholesale Club sells them buy the hundreds. If you are worried that the woman is going to put a hole in the condom, put it on yourself. You also have the option of going to a urologist and having the snip so that you never have to worry about being a daddy. So if you want to be a man, 1. Own up to your responsibility for the life you created. 2. Buy yourself some condoms or get yourself an appointment to get a vasectomy.
2006-09-15 15:45:57
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answered by mom of girls 6
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Everyone keeps saying that its a woman body, it's up to her. But its the mans unborn child. How can a mother decide the fate of her unborn child, but a father can not? It's not about the womans body, it's about the life being created inside her. There are men out there, my boyfriend being one of them, that he would raise that child himself if he had too, just like a lot of woman do. I do believe a man should have a say, soceity is screwed up, men who raise children on their own aren't awarded child support from the mother, (it happends I know somebody) How is that fair? If it was the other way around, he would have to pay, right?
2006-09-15 15:42:13
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answered by melashell 3
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I hate it when boys guys or men wont a women or girl to abort their baby the one that the girl or women will be feeding for nine months.I also hate it when the father wants the mother to abort the baby because it is a girl and the father wanted a boy,would you have her abort it if it had a one to two percent chance the baby girl could have down syndrome because my sisters boyfriend wants her to abort the baby one because it is suppose to be a girl and two because their is a very very small chance it will be born with down syndrome.I am a mother and I think all babies no matter what their parents situation is they should have the baby if they cant take care of it right they should put it up for adoption least it could have a chance in life.
2006-09-15 16:23:11
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answered by tootles 2
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