What purpose did the pope have in quoting Emperor Manual II Paleol today?

Question

Questioning the concept of holy war, he quoted a 14th-Century Christian emperor who said Muhammad had brought the world only "evil and inhuman" things.

I am not questioning whether his quote is true or not, I am only interested in his reasons.

For the record, I have read his whole speech.

Answer 1

For everyone else, here is a link to the English translation of the Pope's controversial speech: http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/speeches/2006/september/documents/hf_ben-xvi_spe_20060912_university-regensburg_en.html

With love in Christ.

Answer 2

It sounded to me like this quote was preempting why the next quote says Islam is violent. I think the first quote was supposed to show this was the opinion of the emperor and the Pope only wanted to use to quote to show an example of "irrational" violence by SOME religious people, not to support the emperor's opinion that all of Islam is violent.

However, it was poorly constructed. I believe he intended only to point out to those who use violence in the name of religion that they are being counterproductive and irrational, not to say that Islam in general uses violence and that makes the religion violent and irrational. It comes off as saying Islam is evil and irrational and that Muslims need to get back on the right path, following the example of Christians, though.

Answer 3

I don't think he thought this through very well. He doesn't seem to realize that ANYTHING he says is taken very seriously. The way he criticizes Catholics the world over for the way they live their lives (the recent criticism of Canadian Catholic Politicians was just a joke) indicates a man who yearns for a time when the Church was more powerful than any State on Earth and the Pope, therefore, had immense power. In this age of incredible tension between religions, ideologies and cultures, his statement was idiotic and irresponsible. The jihadists have enough excuses for their violent and irrational behaviour without the Pope giving them another one. He should try to live up to his name: Benedict - Peace maker...

Answer 4

I dont know his reasons (gave up mind reading a long time ago) but I wonder what purpose every Muslim Iman in the middle east has had for the last 50 years spouting the same type of junk against Christianity and Isreal?

Answer 5

he's an Ignorant Nazi Bastard!!!!
only God knows what he was thinking, i can only assume.

and i assume that it's a part of the HUGE war waged against Islam because of Jealousy and hatred. Islam has been growing in an incredible way over the last 5 years. Christians started to worry.


http://www.themodernreligion.com/convert/sword.html

Answer 6

Take a look around you. Why must we always be so politically correct. Sometimes the truth needs to be said. The western world lives with the ongoing threat of terror at the hands of muslim facists. If there is a progressive muslim community, let them speak out or live with the consequences brought on them by the jihadists.

Answer 7

Excellent question! I think you are the very first to focus on Ben16's purpose instead of the quote itself.

I think Poope Ben16 was very hypocritical: "This is not me who said that, but the 14th-century christian."

I think his purpose was to hypocritically spit at Islam. He did know he was talking in public.

He should remember that a few centuries ago, christian leaders killed lots of ppl in the name of religion.

I think Poope Ben16 had better keep silent.

Shame on him.

Answer 8

Because he's an arrogant, troublemaking horse's a**.

After all, he is a former Nazi and Chief Inquisitor, so what else should we expect?


"Muslim fascists" is the most idiotic, contradictory term the real fascists have invented yet. Islam preaches socialism, not fascism. Fascism is corporatism and favors corporations over individuals. The US is the most fascist state on the planet.


George Bush supporters are illiterate morons.

Answer 9

raising technology to a aspect of religion feels like a mistake to me. Environmentalists imagine they have performed that already, see the topics it really is causing. technology is and could be no more beneficial that a study of the advent. technology is a string of linked data that would nicely be validated, or maybe as performed proper, calls for no faith. faith is a fashion to stay. It has moral guidelines that help human beings stay and paintings mutually, shared faith in precise and incorrect. in short, technology small and finite, faith, limitless.

Answer 10

Purpose: Horeb-bull Blame-game: it inducts them all, of them vs them (scape-goats vs dumb-sheep) who "oppose themselves", into a hall of shame: "these all died" and "rec'd not the promise": Hebrews 11 concludes God having provided some "better" thing for "us", for they without us cannot be made perfect (they need us to end the shew as written, to save their dividead cheri bums).

Note: the promise(eternal life) comes after doing the will of God: I will have mercy, and not sacrifice; which none of the popish persons have done yet, still being hung up on sacrifice, when the Bible flat out says God never desired sacrifice for sin nor ever took pleasure in watching such law law.

Reason: he's playing "their part" of "their part" vs "your part":
"their part" - God(Grace) is evil(law) spoken of
"your part" - God(Grace) is (grace) glory-fied
http://www.godshew.org/TheirPartYourPart.htm
"their end" shall be according to "their works": 2Cor 11:15
Eg: law priests are not allowed to continue (the human race), and notably "by reason of death" (their life + death ends with death, because their grace + law ends with law): Heb 7:23, which is allegorically as saved + destroyed after in Jude 5, which notably happened to them all saved out of Egypt.

But let's not only expose popish persons, like John-Paul II, who notably said in 1999 the long tradition of sacrifice(slaughter) must continue in the third millennium; which is a "nay nay" in my Bible, to both such a Death rider and to the horse it rode in on. For God will "not" have sacrifice: not then, not now, not ever (Ps 40:6; Ps 51:16; Hos 6:6; Mt 9:13; Mt 12:7; Heb 10; And the third day is not a millennium(1,000 yrs: 2Pet 3:8), rather it's the seventh day when counting the days in John 1 & 2:1.
http://www.godshew.org/ThirdDay.htm

Bible Translators noted both a maligning and a traducing in an Epistle Dedicatory, from both popish persons on one side and self-conceited brethren on the other side, which is to allegorically say from both the Roman Catholics & Protestants of the time, who also both played the childish blame game rather than give more earnest heed to "be no more children" tossed to and fro; neither children of the wicked nor children of God, for a child differeth nothing from a servant(slave) as long as he remains a child instead of a man who puts away childish things: law law.
http://www.godshew.org/EpistleDedicatory.htm

The "grace" of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.