Fatima
"I will take Jacinta and Francisco shortly; but you will stay here for some time to come. Jesus wants to use you to make ME known and loved. He wishes to establish the devotion to MY Immaculate Heart throughout the world. I promise salvation to whoever embraces it; these souls will be dear to God, like flowers put by ME to adorn his throne."
Make ME known and loved
Devotion to MY Immaculate Heart.
I promise salvation
Guadalupe, Mexico, 1531
"Know and understand well that I am the ever virgin Holy Mary, Mother of the True God for whom we live, of the Creator of all things, Lord of heaven and the earth. I wish that a temple be erected here quickly, so I may therein exhibit and give all my love, compassion, help, and protection, because I am your merciful mother, to you, and to all the inhabitants of this land and all the rest who love me, invoke and confide in me."
She told the people to build a temple to her not to Jesus.
Lourdes, France, 1858.
"I am the Immaculate Conception.
I do not promise to make you happy in this world but in the other."
Immaculate conception means Mary was born without sin. Only sinners need a savior. The Bible says ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of God.
"You will never be alone. My Immaculate Heart will be your refuge and the way which will lead you to God."- Fatima
Jesus said He would be with us until the end of the world. Why do we need Mary to be with us?
1)Until it can be shown from the Bible that Mary was assumed into Heaven I believe that Mary is dead and resting in her grave until the resurection like all the other followers of Christ.
Psalms 115:17 The dead praise not the Lord.
Psalms 6:5 In death there is no remembrance of thee.
Isaiah 38:18 Death can not celebrate thee.
Psalms 146:4 His thoughts perish.
Job 21:32 Yet shall he be brought to the grave, and shall remain in the tomb.
Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they shall die; but the dead do not know anything, nor do they have any more a reward; for their memory is forgotten.
2) God says that it is forbidden to talk to the dead
Deuteronomy 18:11, 1 Samuel 28:3-20; 2 Chronicles 10:13, 14; Isaiah 8:19-22
3) Saul talked to the "Samuel" after Samuel died. and what the vision said came true, but if you read 1 Samuel 28:13 it is clear it was not really Samuel.
"And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light." 1 Corinthians 11:14
"For they are the spirit of devils, working miracles"
Revelation 16:14
2006-09-15 10:44:48
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answered by Conundrum 4
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True apparition? What does that mean? Might be a bit circular in reasoning: apparition is true because it says "come back to Jesus." Then all true apparations always say, "come back to Jesus."
Mind you, I am not doubting that Mary or someone similar has appeared, just asking you to examine your statement.
This I tell you from experience: just because the entity is disincarnate does not mean it is telling the truth or benevolent. Serious stuff there. Be careful of those who say they have had messages from God or Mary or anyone else. Test it against your reasoning.
Peace.
2006-09-15 09:38:00
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answered by NeoArt 6
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Why are all the so called visions always of Mary and always akin to the Catholic Church?
There are no visions or apparitions that occur of Mary. There is no image of Jesus in the grilled cheese sandwich. When one person "sees" something then they can infect others with the same visions. People are always gullible, especially when it comes to religious apparitions.
2006-09-15 09:37:57
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answered by Anonymous
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I believe in apparitions! I especially love the Marian ones. Fatima, Lourdes, Guadelupe... St Michael the Archangel is also a favorite of mine who appeared to St. Joan of Ark (and even to me once!).
2006-09-15 09:35:56
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answered by Dysthymia 6
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Those kind of phenomena cannot be proved scientifically, but they cannot be disproved either. The problem is that they are random and cannot be reproduced in a controlled way.
Not even the good faith of the witnesses can be taken as a proof.
They are basically a question of faith.
2006-09-15 09:42:43
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answered by NaughtyBoy 3
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Please forgive me as I turn to Scripture and away from any "vision". The writer to the Hebrews told us..
Hebrews 1:1-2
God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
Why would God go against His word and communicate in some other way, any other way? Jim
2006-09-15 09:43:35
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answered by Anonymous
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yes i do believe in apparitions
my mother and aunt have both had one ( separately with witness to my aunts )
and they are rational , good people so i have no reason to doubt them
as you now know my favourite film .. you probably understand that it would be an honour if ever i was to witness such a vision
added note to melrae below
my mother and aunt aren't catholic ... and the vision was of Jesus not Mary
2006-09-15 09:33:12
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answered by Peace 7
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i'm reminded of a narrative of a enormous Vaidyan (wellness care professional) Muss depicted in Ithihyamala written with the help of previous due Sri Kottarathil Shankunni, who stated a vegetarian guy to have some reasonable volume of ghee taken from a ineffective Python as a treatment to a illness. The veg. guy grew to become into reluctant to have non veg and went to Achan Kovil Sastha Kshethram (Temple) on condition that he grew to become into super devottee of Lord Ayyappa and prayed. The Lord recognized till now him in a dream and stated to drink 3 handful of water from the interior sight river (Achan Kovilar)daily for 40-one days and the affected person have been given cured. whilst he stated approximately this to the Muss (wellness care professional), he referred to as the affected person for a stroll via the banks of the river upstream. A small distance away they observed some areas of a ineffective python from which its ghee areas have been blending with the river. so as in line with the wellness care professional's estimate, the affected person has taken in plenty plenty extra ghee into him with the river water than he stated.. maybe a number of God's the thank you to even instruct the technology too as his own creation often times very outstanding..
2016-12-18 10:55:17
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answered by ? 4
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Yes i do,
however i believe in many more than what most Christians would. and i do not see the ones that are not of Mary or Jesus to be evil. but then again i am different.
2006-09-15 09:36:30
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answered by Anonymous
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No I don't believe in apparitions however I know many do.
2006-09-15 09:33:30
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answered by genaddt 7
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