Mormon, Jehovah's Witness, 7th Day Adventists, Unitarians, are these really Christians?

Question

if yes...why

if no...why

how do they tie in and on what document or 'proof' if refferenceable

Answer 1

Christians are always fingering pointing at other christians. I don't believe there is such a thing as a "true" christian because christians themselves don't agree.

Answer 2

Since I'm not a Mormon, 7th Day Adventist, or a Unitarian, I will not try to answer for them, even though I've talked to members of their religion.

(even studing two months with a Mormon elder)

As one of Jehovah's Christian Witnesses

Yes, sometimes we do add Christian to our name to clarify which generation of witnesses we are, since all true worshipers from Abel to Jesus
are called witnesses. Heb.12:1-3; Rev 1:5

Jehovah Witnesses have gone on record that our belief in Jesus is that he is the Only Begotten Son of God. John 3:16.

This distingushes Jesus from Adam (Luke 3:38)
and the angels (Job 38:7)

At Romans 15:4-6, Paul said we should all have the mental attitude of Christ in glorifying the God and Father of Christ Jesus.

Paul at 1 Cor 11:3 That Jehovah is Head of Christ as Christ is Head of Man.

So according to some definision of a christian I've read, Then Paul isn't a christian.

Answer 3

SDA believe Jesus is God so they are. Mormon's and Jehovah's Witnesses don't so they're not. I don't know much about Unitarians.

UPDATE: I'm not sure if you're asking for documentation that the groups believe what I say they believe or of the requirement, but I'll document the requirement:

1John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

This is the test that's failed by Jehovah's Witnesses (who I believe are so against the idea of Jesus being God they've altered John 1:1 in their bibles) and Mormons. Jesus coming in fhe flesh is a test because Jesus is God. If he weren't, it wouldn't be much of a test, every human comes to earth in the flesh.

Answer 4

It depends on what your "test" of Christianity is.

Is your definition "one who believes in Jesus Christ and follows His example and teachings?"

If so, then all 4 groups qualify.

If, as someone above defines the test: "SDA believe Jesus is God so they are. Mormon's and Jehovah's Witnesses don't so they're not."

Then only those who believe in the Trinity can qualify as Christians.

The more narrow the definition, the fewer who qualify. Some extremely conservative Christians would love to exclude everyone except those who believe exactly as they do.

Interestingly, Mormon, Jehovahs' Witnesses, and Seventh Day Adventists would all exclude main-stream Christianity because their definitions of the "True Religion" is narrowly drawn to include only fellow members.

Edited to add: 1John 4:1 gives this test - "anyone who confesses Jesus came in the flesh is from God; if they don't they're not from God"

Both Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses believe Jesus came in the flesh, and therefore would qualify under the sctrictures laid out in this passage.

Answer 5

a million • Does your household attend non secular amenities at the same time? Nope. 2 • Does your household pray at the same time? Nope. 3 • What position does faith play on your household? None in any respect. None human beings trust that exact same difficulty. 4 • fairly, how has faith assisted in shaping your household and the courting between its contributors? It hasn't. 5 • Does your household communicate openly about faith oftentimes? Have there been conflicts on your household that established on faith? We communicate about how all of us trust diverse issues. there's no conflict except that my grandmother isn't chuffed that we are not Catholic. 6 • Have your own non secular values/practices replaced in any respect because you've been a baby? certain. i develop into not something... Then i develop into compelled to bypass to Sunday college by employing my grandmother. Now i'm Unitarian. 7 • Does your household devour dinner at the same time? no 8 • Who in a lot of circumstances prepares the relations’s meal? mom or dad, searching on whose abode i'm at. 9 • Who in a lot of circumstances cleans up after the relations’s meal? Whoever appears like it or volunteers. 10 • Do all contributors of your household communicate an same quantity on the dinner table? we do not have a dinner table. eleven • who's responsible for discipline contained in the relations? even as i develop into little, mom. 12 • Does your household percentage leisure time at the same time? certain 13 • What leisure time events are part of your household? television, videos, Board video games, sledding, trekking. 14 • Is there a great deal of “play” and humor on your household? not fairly 15 • Is there a great deal of touching on your household? not fairly 16 • How are ladies and boys dealt with on your household? an same 17 • How are chores divided on your household? Whoever has time for something does it. 18 • How has faith formed any of the events and relations rituals that were suggested so some distance in this survey? once again, they havent.

Answer 6

Im not a JW or any of the other stuff, but people who keep saying JWs dont believe Jesus is the son of god, please listen up and telll your friends and family....on first matters, you obviously dont know what your talking about....all Jehovahs Witnesses ever say is that Jesus is the son of god...the whole reason they go knocking peoples doors are because of the fact that, in basic terms, they are trying to copy Jesus (almost Verbatim)...however, they do not believe he is gawd, and continueously stress this point in those magazines they make....So there you have it, you have no reason to spit that ignorant crap.

I suppose, because of the big-deal Jehovahs Witnesses make about Jesus and trying to copy his lifestyle, you mineaswell put them in the Christian category. Whether or not they are kind of a sect is a different story entirely...and yes, you can be both.

Answer 7

It depends on how you define Christian.

Some people would say anyone who believes in the death and resurection in any form are Christians, in which case I think the only group who would be excluded from your list are the Unitarians.

Some would require that you belielve in the bodily resurection (not a ghost) in which case most of your Jehovah's Witnesses drop off.

Some would go further and require that you accept everything in the Apostle's Creed, in which case your Mormons are going to loose some of their most devout followers.

Some require that you hold to the Nicene Creed, in which case most of what's left of your Mormons and a few of your 7th day Adventists drop out.

Some would say it's necissary to hold that the only source of insparation is the Bible, and that God doesn't speak any other way any more, in which case a lot more of your 7th day Adventists drop out.

Some say you have to hold to a specific set of core beliefs (the Trinity, bodily resurection, church, whatever) in which case obviously the list is different.

I personally define any person as a Christian who holds to everything stated in the Apostle's Creed (though I make the "descent into Hell" optional since that wasn't in the earliest Apostle's Creed) and an organization as Christian if they hold to everything stated in the Nicene Creed.

Answer 8

Do I believe that a Christian can be in one of these churches.....Yes.... Do I believe that these churches teach true Christian doctrine? No on all except for in some instances the 7th day adventists. Each one has an appeal that can seduce a true Christian into doctrinal error that can steal their relationship with Jesus. Here is the appeal of each and where it can lead to losing a relationship with Jesus:
Mormonism
Appeal is that there is a strong emphasis on family
Consequences: Salvation (recieving your planet) is based on family relationships and not on a relationship with Jesus

Jehovah's Witness
Appeal : Strong social community, religous exclusiveness
Consequences : Total reliance on the Watchtower Organization for your salvation (not Jesus)

Unitarian
Appeal : A sense of universal peace and acceptance
Consequences : Taking your focus off you relationship Jesus Christ as your sole salvation and allow demonic influences in the form of pagan religions.

Seventh Day Adventist
Appeal a carnal feeling of religious security (keeping the sabbath, eating certain foods, obeying old testament law)
Consequences: Depending upon your own flesh for salvation will totally destroy your relationship with Jesus

Answer 9

All of these cults have strayed from the indisputable word of God, the Holy Bible. For example, Mormons believe these things about God: that He has not always been the Supreme Being of the universe, but attained that status through righteous living and persistent effort. They believe God the Father has a “body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s.” Though abandoned by modern Mormon leaders, Brigham Young taught that Adam actually was God and the father of Jesus Christ. Christians know this about God: there is only One true God (Deuteronomy 6:4, Isaiah 43:10, 44:6-8), that He always has and always will exist (Deuteronomy 33:27, Psalm 90:2, 1 Timothy 1:17), and that He was not created, but is the Creator (Genesis chapter1, Psalm 24:1, Isaiah 37:16). He is perfect and no one else is equal to Him (Psalm 86:8, Isaiah 40:25). God the Father is not a man, nor was He ever (Numbers 23:19, 1 Samuel 15:29, Hosea 11:9). He is Spirit (John 4:24), and Spirit is not made of flesh and bone (Luke 24:39)...etc

JW's believe Jesus was not the Son of God, but merely a perfect man, that Jesus returned to Earth in 1914, and that 144,000 will get to Heaven, the rest will live on the new Earth...etc."This is my Son, my chosen. Listen to Him"(Luke 9:35) 144,000 refers to the tribes of Israel who will be saved as the remnant.

7th Day Adventists believe that Jesus was the archangel Michael, not the Son of God...etc

Unitarians believe that God is not triumvirate, "three persons", but one." And when Jesus was baptized, he went up immediately from the water, and behold, the heavens were opened and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and alighting on him; and lo, a voice from heaven, saying, "This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased."" Matthew 3:16/17

This is a huge topic, so I've tried to keep it short!!! The document of proof is the Holy Bible!

Answer 10

Preacher is wrong. Mormons don't deny that Jesus is the son of God. Mormons just don't believe Jesus IS God. That is why other Christians criticize them. Preacher is the typical Christian who doesn't even bother to read up on other people's beliefs before he passes judgement. Shame on him....and I'm not even Mormon and I knew that!

Mormons also differ from the average Christian in that they believe the works you do here on earth are important as well as your belief in Jesus. Any thinking person would agree that how you conduct your life here on earth would be directly linked to where you go from here.

Answer 11

Mormons - no, do not accept the deity of Christ and salvation by grace alone.

JW's - See above

7th day Adventists - fringe, some beliefs questionable

Unitarians - Not even close. A social club