For those who think Jesus never lived: Does this help show he was real?

Question

http://www.creatingfutures.net/birth.html

Answer 1

yes. it helps a bit

Answer 2

No. All the extra-biblical references (Josephus and later) came too late to have been recording anything but hearsay. The blurb about Jesus in Josephus' writings is even admitted to be a forgery by many Christian scholars. But even if it is genuine, it merely demonstrates that Josephus was familiar with Christianity. It does not demonstrate that his knowledge was more than just urban legend.

The NT itself is also nothing but an elaborate system of hearsay, with many of the books being penned possibly 120 years after the purported facts, and a minimum of about 40 years.

Paul's writings are the earliest, and he seems to know almost nothing at all about the man Jesus. If you read the Christian writings in chronological order (to include those outside the Bible), you can see the myth unfolding. Jesus starts off mystical and is gradually transformed into a real human being over the decades, with details about his life being tacked on as they go.

For real history, details appear in earlier writings and get lost over time, not the other way around.

Answer 3

There is plenty of historical proof that Jesus Christ existed. One source that cannot be argued with unless the person is bias in their thinking is "The Complete Works of Josephus". Josephus was a Jewish historian of the first century AD that mentions the miracles and fact that there were many followers of his doctrine at the time he was crucified. Factor in the burial ossuaries of the first century AD that were recently unearthed during a parking lot renovation near the Mt. of Olives in Jerusalem that were marked with Christian symbols. But believing that someone existed is different than having a personal relationship with them. I believe that George Washington existed but I did not know him personally. A belief is something that people hold to, faith is the knowledge that he is real. But if our gospel be hid it is hid to them that are lost.

Answer 4

I have never questioned the existence of Jesus Christ. I question the perverse way in which the followers of the religion named for him have twisted his words and teachings as a means to hate, abuse, and berate people. These are things The Great Teacher would find offensive. I believe in Christ's words and his teachings, but not the obscene garbage humankind has twisted his words to mean.

Answer 5

There is no doubt that a man who called himself "Jesus the Christ" lived on earth and was crucified on a cross. This information is all historically acurate and cannot be disagreed with. The real question, and test of faith is accepting the divinity of Christ.....But that's a totally different question.

Answer 6

good site but probly not

John 6:44
No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day.

many here are just being fools, they have no real desire to know the truth, just to spout off about things they know so little about

Answer 7

I believe Jesus existed but there is no way you can prove beyond a reasnoble doubt that he did...unless you have a time machine or something

Answer 8

I've never disputed whether or not the boy existed. I simply find it reasonless to assume he had all that power.

Answer 9

I believe Jesus existed. I just don't believe he created miracles.

Answer 10

it helps..
but i still dont believe.
because.
the Gentile is a word for Not Jewish.
so if they arent jewish..
guess what they are.
CORRECT!
christians.
( so u see why it doesnt help that much)

Answer 11

NO. He is amyth created by weak minds that are incapable of fathoming the fact that when you die, that's it. Done. nothingness.