ezekel 13-18/20 what is ment? to the rapture fokes?

Answer 1

This is a warning to the false prophets..the ones that say they come in the name of the Lord..but they are deceivers...you reap whatever it is that you sow...God doesn't like it when others "say" they come in His name, and then turn around and try to deceive His children into believing lies.

Answer 2

Don't understand what this has to do with the rapture. Here is a commentary on the passages.

Eze_13:18-21. Render thus: “Woe to the women that” put charms on every finger-joint, that set veils upon heads of every height to ensnare souls. “Will ye” ensnare “the souls of my people,” and keep your own souls alive, and will ye profane my name “among my people for handfuls of barley and pieces of bread, to slay the souls that should not die, and to” keep alive “the souls that should not live, by lying to my people” who listen to “a lie? Wherefore thus saith the Lord God, Behold” I will come upon your charms, where ye are ensnaring the souls like birds; “and I will tear them from your arms and will let the souls go” free, “even the souls” which ye are ensnaring like birds. “Your” veils “also will I tear, and deliver my people out of your hand, and they shall be no more in your hand to be” ensnared; “and ye shall know that I am the Lord.”
Most ancient interpreters and many modern interpreters have understood the “pillows” (or charms) and “kerchiefs” (or veils), as appliances to which the sorcerers had resort in order to attract notice. The veil was a conspicuous ornament in the east - women whatever their “stature” (or, height) putting them on - and it was worn by magicians in order to seem more mysterious and awful.
Eze_13:19
Pollute me - Profane Me by your false words, which ye pretend to be from Me.
Handfuls of barley - Such were the gifts with which men used to approach a seer (compare 1Sa_9:7-8; 1Ki_14:3).
Eze_13:20
To make them fly - If the marginal reading “into gardens” be adopted, it must mean, Ye entice men to the gardens or groves, where magical arts are practiced. That groves were used for this purpose and for idolatrous rites is notorious.

Answer 3

I think the more important question is, why dont more christians pay attention to Ezekiel 23:20 ?

Answer 4

I'm not 100% percent sure but I think it is refering to witchcraft which is messing with demons and such and God wants us to stay away from that type of stuff. He was also warning them to stay away from His people.

Answer 5

Ezekiel 13:18-20 "the souls that ye hunt to make them fly"
Those who attack the pre-tribulation rapture sometimes read Ezekiel 13:18-20 in the King James, and wrongly conclude this is a condemnation of rapture teachers, who they see as ones who "hunt the souls to make them fly" and believe in the "fly away" doctrine of the pretrib rapture. Looking up this verse in multiple translations, the NIV, NASB, RSV, DARBY, and Young's Literal Translation, clearly shows that the subject of Ezekiel 13:18-20 is not the rapture at all.


Furthermore, the doctrine of the rapture, that we will be "taken", or "caught up" or "raptured" to be with Christ is irrefutably a Bible doctrine, and is solidly based on 1 Thess 4:17.

In Ezekiel 13:18-20, the subject appears to be fortune tellers, (women who read taro cards, gaze into crystal balls, palm reading and the like) who are prophesying strictly out of their own imagination (or reading into people's own desires) for money. These would be like those who work for the psychic hotlines today. There were these kinds of people even in King Saul's day, he "had put away those that had familiar spirits, and the wizards, out of the land." (1 Samuel 28:3), but ended consulting one anyway, (1 Sam 28:7), "...Seek me a woman that hath a familiar spirit, that I may go to her, and enquire of her..." The kinds of prophecy these people engaged in was a personal type of prophecy, such as "you will be rich," or "you will get married soon," that has nothing whatsoever to do with Bible Prophecy.

Second, the magic charms or pillows on the armholes or shirt sleeves are the thing that is used to deceive and hunt people. I don't know of any pretrib prophecy teacher who uses extravagant magic charms or "fortune-teller type" clothing on his arm sleeves to convince people of the pretrib rapture doctrine!

Third, the phase "to make them fly" is not rendered that way in any translation listed above except for the KJV. Thus, this proves quite easily that the subject is not a "fly away" doctrine, such as the rapture might be. The subject is ensnaring people, and the point of the use of the words "fly away" is that the Lord will help people to escape the clutches of these women.


KJV: Ezekiel 13:
18 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe to the women that sew pillows to all armholes, and make kerchiefs upon the head of every stature to hunt souls! Will ye hunt the souls of my people, and will ye save the souls alive that come unto you?
19 And will ye pollute me among my people for handfuls of barley and for pieces of bread, to slay the souls that should not die, and to save the souls alive that should not live, by your lying to my people that hear your lies?
20 Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly.

NIV Ezekiel 13:20 "`Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am against your magic charms with which you ensnare people like birds and I will tear them from your arms; I will set free the people that you ensnare like birds.

NASB Ezekiel 13:20 Therefore, thus says the Lord GOD, ""Behold, I am against your magic bands by which you hunt [15] lives there as [16] birds and I will tear them from your arms; and I will let [17] them go, even those [18] lives whom you hunt as [19] birds.

RSV Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus says the Lord GOD: Behold, I am against your magic bands with which you hunt the souls, and I will tear them from your arms; and I will let the souls that you hunt go free like birds.

DARBY Ezekiel 13:20 Wherefore thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Behold, I am against your pillows, that the souls which ye catch by their means may fly away; and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, the souls that ye catch, that they may fly away.

Young's Ezekiel 13:20 Therefore, thus said the Lord Jehovah: Lo, I [am] against your pillows, With which ye are hunting there the souls of the flourishing, And I have rent them from off your arms, And have sent away the souls that ye are hunting, The souls of the flourishing.

Therefore, this is really one of the most groundless arguments foating around used to attack the rapture. Relatively few people have been so deceived, as to use this compltely inapplicable scripture in their collection of invalid "no rapture" arguments. But for those who do, you can see that such authors have absolutely no respect for study, or for the meaning of words, and that they will use anything that sounds like it might be against the rapture to try and make their case. This goes to show the susceptibility to deception, and/or willingness to tell lies on the part of those who attack the rapture.

If you ever see anyone using this particular "no pretrib proof", you know that their scholarship and understanding of scripture probably needs a lot more work.

Answer 6

Catholic Church???