yes.
It is the act of homosexuality that is an abomination before the lord.
People think about stealing but many do not do it.
Anyway, homosexuality is on the same level (abomination) as eating bacon.
Food for thought.
and then what about ...
David and Jonathan having a consensual homosexual relationship
1 Samuel 18:1
"...Jonathan became one in spirit with David and he loved him as himself." (NIV)
"...the soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul" (KJV)
Most translations use the term "soul" rather than "spirit" to describe the bond. They speak of an "immediate bond of love", their souls being "in unison," their souls being "knit", etc. Genesis 2:7, as written in the original Hebrew, describes how God blew the spirit into the body of Adam that God had formed from earth, so that Adam became a living soul. This means that "soul", in the ancient Israelite times, represents a combination of body and spirit. Thus the two men appear to have loved each other both physically and emotionally.
1 Samuel 18:2
"From that day, Saul kept David with him and did not let him return to his father's house." (NIV)
David left his parent's home and moved to Saul's where he would be with Jonathan. This is a strong indication that the relationship was extremely close. It echoes the passage marriage passage in Genesis 2:24: "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh."
1 Samuel 18:3-4
"And Jonathan made a covenant with David because he loved him as himself. Jonathan took off the robe he was wearing and gave it to David, along with his tunic, and even his sword, his bow and his belt." (NIV)
Since people in those days did not wear underwear, Jonathan stripped himself naked in front of David. That would be considered extremely unusual behavior (then and now) unless their relationship was physical.
1 Samuel 18:20-21
"Now Saul's daughter Michal was in love with David, and when they told Saul about it, he was pleased. 'I will give her to him', he thought, 'so that she may be a snare to him and so that the hand of the Philistines may be against him'. Now you have a second opportunity to become my son-in-law" (NIV)
In the King James Version, the end of Verse 21 reads:
"Thou shalt this day be my son-in-law, in the one of the twain." (KJV)
Saul's belief was that David would be so distracted by a wife that he would not be an effective fighter and would be killed by the Philistines. He offered first his daughter Merab, but that was rejected, presumably by her. Then he offered Michal. There is an interesting phrase used at the end of verse 21. In both the NIV and KJV, it would seem that David's first opportunity to be a son-in-law was with the older daughter Merab, and his second was with the younger daughter Michal.
The KJV preserves the original text in its clearest form; it implies that David would become Saul's son-in-law through "one of the twain." "Twain" means "two", so the verse seems to refer to one of Saul's two daughters. Unfortunately, this is a mistranslation. The underlined phrase "the one of" does not exist in the Hebrew original. The words are shown in italics in the King James Version; this is an admission by the translators that they made the words up. Thus, if the KJV translators had been truly honest, they would have written:
"Thou shalt this day be my son-in-law, in the twain."
In modern English, this might be written: "Today, you are son-in-law with two of my children" That would refer to both his son Jonathan and his daughter Michal.
The Hebrew original would appear to recognize David and Jonathan's homosexual relationship as equivalent to David and Michal's heterosexual marriage. Saul may have approved or disapproved of the same-sex relationship; but at least he appears to have recognized it. The KJV highlight their re-writing of the Hebrew original by placing the three words in italics; the NIV translation is clearly deceptive.
1 Samuel 20:41
"After the boy had gone, David got up from the south side of the stone and bowed down before Jonathan three times, with is face to the ground. Then they kissed each other and wept together - but David wept the most." (NIV)
Other translations have a different ending to the verse:
bullet"...and they kissed one another and wept with one another, until David exceeded." (KJV)
bullet"...and they kissed one another and wept with one another until David got control of himself." (Amplified Bible)
bullet"and they sadly shook hands, tears running down their cheeks until David could weep no more." (Living Bible)
bullet"They kissed each other and wept together until David got control of himself." (Modern Language)
bullet"They kissed each other and wept aloud together." (New American Bible)
bullet"Then David and Jonathan kissed each other. They cried together, but David cried the most." (New Century Version)
bullet"Then they kissed one another and shed tears together, until David's grief was even greater than Jonathan's." (Revised English Bible)
bullet"...and they kissed one another and wept with one another until David recovered himself." (Revised Standard Version)
The translators of the Living Bible apparently could not handle the thought of two adult men kissing, so they mistranslated the passage by saying that the two men shook hands! This is somewhat less than honest. The original Hebrew text says that they kissed each other and wept together until David became great. The word which means "great" in this passage is "gadal" in the original Hebrew. The same word is used elsewhere in the Hebrew Scriptures to refer to King Solomon being greater than all other kings. Some theologians interpret "gadal" in this verse as indicating that David had an erection. However, the thoughts of David becoming sexually aroused after kissing Jonathan may have been too threatening for Bible translators. They either deleted the ending entirely or created one of their own.
2 Samuel 1:26
"I grieve for you, Jonathan my brother; you were very dear to me. Your love for me was wonderful, more wonderful than that of women."
In the society of ancient Israel, it was not considered proper for a man and woman to have a platonic relationship. Men and women rarely spoke to each other in public. Since David's only relationships with women would have been sexual in nature, then he must be referring to sexual love here. It would not make sense in this verse to compare platonic love for a man with sexual love for a woman; they are two completely different phenomenon. It would appear that David is referring to his sexual love for Jonathan.
2006-09-14 10:25:24
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answered by Anonymous
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You are not alone. Many people struggle just as you do. It is important to realize that God loves you deeply and does not condemn you for your same-sex feelings and temptations. But He is intensely interested in what you do with them. If you engage in homosexual relations or lust (willful fantasizing about such relations) God is deeply grieved and sets about in a variety of ways to turn you from such a destructive course. When homosexual thoughts arise in your mind, you must reject them and turn your mind to wholesome thoughts (Philippians 4:4-8). The Bible says, "No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it" (1 Corinthians 10:13). You must discipline your mind as an athlete disciplines his body.
God not only wants to protect you from homosexual behavior, but He wants to begin to meet the deep needs at the root of your same-sex desires. Apart from an occasional miracle, this psychological and spiritual healing which leads toward sexual wholeness does not happen quickly.
Usually, outside help is necessary. For this reason, I would suggest that you contact a Christian ministry which assists men and women who want to deal with homosexual issues in their lives. For information about a ministry which may exist in your general area, you might contact Exodus International North America, P. O. Box 540119, Orlando, Florida, 32854, telephone: (888) 264-0877; or, Homosexuals Anonymous Fellowship Services, P.O. Box 7881, Reading, Pennsylvania 19603, telephone: (610) 376-1146.
I would also encourage you to seek additional guidance from a Christian professional counselor who understands this problem. A book which you may find helpful is "Coming Out of Homosexuality" by Bob Davies and Lori Rentzel. It would be available from a Christian bookstore or by writing to Regeneration Books, P.O. Box 9830, Baltimore, Maryland 21284-9830, telephone: (410) 661-4337. Worship, instruction, and fellowship with other believers in a warm and dynamic Gospel-proclaiming church will also prove invaluable. Don't despair. God has a solution for you, and He promises, "Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you" (Hebrews 13:5). Ultimately, the Lord is our hope and resource for every situation, no matter how perplexing. Remember that the Lord "is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think" (Ephesians 3:20).
2006-09-14 10:07:51
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answered by Anonymous
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Heaven is not a feelings trip.You must be born again to be in the Kingdom of God.John 3:3
2006-09-14 10:12:12
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answered by Anonymous
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According to the bible as long as you don't act on those feelings you have nothing to worry about BUT it also says that one should not lust after another in their heart. I wouldn't worry too much about this. As long as you do good things for others and are a good overall person God will see that and overlook some of the other things. He knows that no one is perfect.
2006-09-14 10:10:00
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answered by PROUDJEW 4
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Just as man and woman were not joined until they became one flesh, so shall we all be like wise.
Man may have been born sinners, but with free will, we have the choice to not sin no more.
Urges are one thing.
Committing the sin is the other.
If one finds they may have homosexual urges, then they either need to pray, or just forget about having sexual contact, or relationships.
That includes the opposite sex, as you would be Lying to another and would not be honest with them or yourself.
2006-09-14 10:06:43
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answered by leftturnclyde152521 2
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If you have homosexual feelings and act on them you can still go to heaven! Where do people get the idea that God is sitting on a cloud somewhere counting up sins to hold against us? If you take Christ seriously as the one who was there at creation and chose to become human (quite a sacrifice already) and then chose to die on the cross so that we would know how very much God loves us, then you must conclude that God is serious about reaching out to sinners. "God who is rich in mercy, out of the great love with which he loveed us even when we were dead through our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ--by grace you have been saved--and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the ages to come he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God--not the result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are what he has made us, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand to be our way of life.
2006-09-14 10:07:56
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answered by angel_light 3
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The Bible says that homosexual behavior is the sinful one, not the feelings. Here's the proof:
"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination" (Leviticus 18:22).
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them" (Leviticus 20:13)
2006-09-14 10:04:31
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answered by Anonymous
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yes. Homosexual feelings doesnt make u "gay". All it means is that is what the devil is tempting you with. Its not your fault. As logn as you dont act of them, you havnt given in to the temptation.
O i thought id add that "acting" on them includes lust
God bless
Shane
2006-09-14 10:03:33
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answered by Shane 3
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The devil will put thoughts in your head. If these feeling are not in yor heart (lust) and you have repented of your sins you can go to Heaven. Don't act on these feelings.
2006-09-14 10:05:17
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answered by ~♥~ *CHEEKY* ~♥~ 6
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The sin is not in struggling with something. You sin when you act on those feelings. Unless you spend all day lusting after someone, I guess that could be sin too.
2006-09-14 10:03:10
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answered by justhoughtidcheck 2
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You might want to state what sect of Xianity you are talking about and what version of the bible. Not all sects of Christianity think there is anything wrong with homosexuality.
2006-09-14 10:03:13
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answered by Jordan Marks 2
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