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Let's assume there was nothing at the very beginning.... that means that there are no laws of physics, chemistry, or any of the laws we deem part of our universe currently. At this point, shouldn't ANYTHING be able to happen? There are no rules yet!

Just a random thought, not a theory or proof or anything. Not trying to prove anyone's views wrong either, just offering an alternative.

2006-09-14 09:49:49 · 24 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Creationists will say that it's impossible for anything to have existed before the formation of the universe...

but then go on to say that god existed before the formation of the universe.


.... thereby completely contradicting themselves.

2006-09-14 09:52:09 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 4 2

You're still assuming there was a very beginning.
And if there was, it had to have started when nothing became something. And then of course what happened led to the present and did so in accordance with the laws (or our limited understanding of them) that seem to have brought it to this present state. And since in actuality it is always now, it's more logical to assume there never was a "not now."

So if there had been an alternative, we won't be likely to find it based on the single assumption you have postulated.

2006-09-14 17:06:33 · answer #2 · answered by Grist 6 · 0 0

Ordered structure does not ever result from disorder and chaos. There always has to be something to arrange it into some kind of order. In addition to this, there is nothing that maintains order on it's own. Everything tends to decay, and yet the world has continued all this time...

Try this...blow up a building and see what kind of structured order it creates over time. If that theory works at all, it should be possible to replicate it in a model according to the scientific process.

2006-09-14 16:57:21 · answer #3 · answered by firebyknight 4 · 0 0

There has to be something otherwise the Big Bang can't happen.

Nothing from nothing leaves nothing

Nothing can't make a bang happen

There has to be something

God

Positrons

Electrons

Free hydrogen

Nothing begats nothing

If there is no God if there is not Hydrogen there is NOTHING

Then the Zen Buddists are correct and WE are nothing

We don't exist

We are a figment of our own imagnation

It's that simple

Religion AND Science HAVE to agree on that one point

THERE MUST BE SOMETHING before the BANG happened!

Religious people say it is GOD

Non-religoius people say it is random Hydrogen atoms

To say there is nothing is to say they're is NO SCIENCE and NO GOD

This is something both THEISTS and ATHEISTS both agree on.

2006-09-14 17:01:54 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

The best physicists in the world continue to try to come up with a cosmology that gets back beyond the singularity and so far cannot. This led Dilbert cartoonist Scott Adams to write a book speculating that in the beginning God was all there is and the only way he could create the universe was to blow himself up. Hmmmmm.

2006-09-14 16:53:00 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

I think the problem is in thinking that time is something the universe is embedded in, rather than realizing it is a derived property of the universe itself. We don't ask what is north of the north pole because we realize north is a derived property of the earth's surface so we don't apply it where it is meaningless. Yet people ask what existed before time began without thinking it through.

I think the likely answer is that space, time, energy and matter are derived from something else, something timeless, and spaceless. Perhaps pure mathematics as proposed by the Physicist Max Tegmark. Perhaps something else.

2006-09-14 17:06:50 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Hmm, interesting concept.

If anything is possible, then matter could come from nothingness, theoretically speaking.

I think the entire study of what came before the big-bang to be futile. We can't explore outside of the universe, and we can't explore what came before the universe because we only understand the laws that exist WITHIN this universe.

2006-09-14 16:53:45 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Gen 1:1
In the beginning God.........
(KJV)

The first four words of the Bible sum it up for me. Before there was anything, God was. The Bible does not seek to justify God's existence and neither does it need to. God simply is and we simply are not.

God's is pre-existent and pre-eminent, He is eternal, He does not simply precede time, He transcends time. He is all powerful and all knowing. He spoke all things into existence and all things are held together by the integrity of His word. He is the Alpha & Omega, the Beginning and the End. He is the great “I AM”

Rev 4:8 …., Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.
(KJV)

If man ever finally gets to the point where has exhausted all the possibilities, and has reduced all knowledge to its lowest common denominator, we will still be faced with the irreducible, God the Father, Son & Holy Spirit.

2006-09-14 17:50:56 · answer #8 · answered by movedby 5 · 0 0

Its a big question about big band that how that initial big mass of matter came into existence. I don't think science will be able to solve this mystery in near future (even thinking about distant future also seems like a wishful thinking). But let's not make evolution something like creation, where if they can't come to a conclusion or get confused they start circumlocution.

2006-09-14 16:56:39 · answer #9 · answered by Rustic 4 · 0 0

Nothing existed except a large body suspended on the nothingness of the universes, or void. It was after the big bang that something began to exist.

2006-09-14 17:08:29 · answer #10 · answered by Celestine N 3 · 0 1

There is nothing before the Big Bang. Stephen Hawking has a famous quote:

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Asked in October 2005 on the British daytime chat show Richard & Judy, to explain his assertion that the question "What came before the Big Bang?" was meaningless, he compared it to asking "What lies north of the north pole?"
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2006-09-14 16:53:40 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

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