On Nov.13 1982, Ray Mancini defending his lightweight, stopped Duk Ku Kim in the 14th round, and Kim died as a result thereof.
The WBC, which was not even the sanctioning body for the fight, immediately reduced the length of title fights from 15 to 12 rounds, when a team of their doctors determined that a fighter is most at risk after the 12th round.
Both other bodies followed suit.
I think title fights should go 15
Fighters have suffered brain trauma earlier in fights - it was glaringly apparent that something was very wrong with Gerald McClellan from the 7th onwards, and 15 had been the mandatory distance for decades with no other such problems.
Kim was a mismatched fighter who had to lose a lot of weight rapidly to make 135. If anything, they should reform the way fighters weigh in. Remember Gatti/Gamache?
A lot of important fights in the history of boxing could possibly have had different outcomes with the extra 3.
The extra 3 defines a champion.
2006-09-14
08:54:15
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sorry guys - 'lightweght title'.
2006-09-14
12:57:51 ·
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God- I'm tired. 'lightweight'.
2006-09-14
12:58:29 ·
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Big Buddy - Interesting analysis. I think you would be more interested in amateur boxing. These are professionals, my friend.
2006-09-14
13:02:13 ·
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'smitty' - You are making a big mistake. I will humiliate on this forum to such an extent that you'll crawl back into your hole at every opportunity you can, and if you don't have a hole, better start digging one now.
You are out of your league, little man - and if you doubt me, go take a look at my answers to other fools like you.
If you want to carry on feeling sorry for yourself because you're black, do it on your own time, okay?
2006-09-15
04:23:56 ·
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To all contributors to this forum - Apparently, 'smitty' has not rethought his position towards me, and has foolishly decided on a confrontational course of action.
Now, I have two choices here: Ignore this moron or tear him apart with words.
The former is the easiest course of action but I'm going with the latter - because it's more fun and well...I'm kinda bored.
I'm apologising to all you other guys up front, because this is supposed to be a forum on boxing, but linguistically tearing apart this closet Uncle Tom is too much of an opportunity to pass up.
Who knows - maybe you guys will get a kick out of it.
2006-09-15
10:37:26 ·
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To all contributors to this forum - Apparently, 'smitty' has not rethought his position towards me, and has foolishly decided on a confrontational course of action.
Now, I have two choices here: Ignore this moron or tear him apart with words.
The former is the easiest course of action but I'm going with the latter - because it's more fun and well...I'm kinda bored.
I'm apologising to all you other guys up front, because this is supposed to be a forum on boxing, but linguistically tearing apart this closet Uncle Tom is too much of an opportunity to pass up.
Who knows - maybe you guys will get a kick out of it.
2006-09-15
10:37:27 ·
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I knew that I would find you. If you want to play, I will show you what playing hard ball is all about and I will follow you like a swift boat.
My "whining" as you call it is your stupid a** opinion. Sports can be separated from reality. Your ancestors were probably owners in MLB and they were against integrating MLB (not civil rights but human rights).
Now, the answer to your question is championship fights should be restored to 15 rds.
2006-09-15 04:06:09
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answered by smitty 7
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Yes, a good argument, but there never has been an official time limit for title fights.
Jack Dempsey and Gene Tunney fought two 10 round title fights. Joe Louis fought Buddy Baer in what was supposed to be a 20 round title fight, it ended in one.
There some that say that test match cricket is the ultimate test of skill in that particular sport. It used to be the timeless test where it can go on for days, like boxing there used to be unlimited rounds. Ultimately 15 rounds is the test. The highest guideline that all great fighters test themselves against. The distance shouldn't really constitute the standards of the fighter. Quality and skill will always prevail regardless of the time limit. But you make a compelling argument, I look forward to further dialogue on this subject.
2006-09-16 02:53:12
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answered by Bru 6
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Brad ~
Take me back to the days of old. "The Championship rounds" means exactly that, it's when a Champion can put all of his skills on display for all the world to see. The Kim death as tragic as it was, was not a good reason for 15 round fights to be abolished. There have been deaths in 12 round fights too.
Fifteen round fights were only for Championship Fights not up and comers, not club fighters, guys that bodies were condition to go 15 rounds, they put their bodies through pure torture to be able to extend themselves the extra 5 rounds.
There would be so many benefits of a 15 round Championship bout, you would never hear "If it were a sixteen round fight then I would have won" Some fights that have taken place with the 12 round fight would forever be changed. It's just like the last question that I asked here in this forum "What if Chavez vs Taylor was 15 rounds" The 15 round limit distinguishes a true Champion from what we have representing our great sport today. As always Brad, Thanks for the great question.
2006-09-14 16:22:32
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answered by Santana D 6
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Yes title fights should be 15 rds. Boxing is risky no matter what round. 15 rds was a perfect distance longer than normal making it a special test of championship caliber fighters but not too long as to become ridiculously dangerous. Bring back 15 rds.
2006-09-16 11:41:19
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answered by jimel71898 4
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Yes title fights should be 15 rounds. Rounds 13, 14, and 15 test the mettle of a champion.
2006-09-16 18:10:59
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I agree Brad Morris that title fights should go 15 rounds as before. Think what we might have missed in boxing history such as Marciano's knockout of Walcott in the 13th round. Frazier knocking Ali down in their first fight in the 15th round and winning the decision which he probably would have lost had it been a 12 round fight along with the Thrilla in Manilla and Sugar Ray Leonards comback 14th round victory against Thomas Hearns. Had it been a 12 round fight Hearns would have won. Top calibre fighters such as these should be fighting 15 round title fights.
2006-09-14 17:40:24
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answered by toughguy2 7
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I completely disagree - you want boxing to be more exciting? how about 8 round fights? or 10? that way the fighters can get in there and slug it out, no coasting or rest rounds - if you get behind early in the fight, you're going to have to kick some asss to come back in a 8 or 10 round fight - it will make for a more exciting fight and the fighters will be forced in to action
2006-09-14 19:35:24
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answered by Big Buddy 6
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The 12 round title matches are good for boxing and should be kept.
2006-09-14 18:56:21
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answered by The Duke 3
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I hope you don't mean for the heavy weight division.
Seeing two guys hug each other for about 8 of the 9 minutes in those rounds or throwing hay makers isn't very entertaining.
2006-09-14 16:01:17
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answered by Anonymous
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great question,yes i think they should bring back the 15 rounders for title fights.
2006-09-14 16:03:13
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answered by Spook 4
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