Is ninjutsu effective in a real life situation? Vs other martial arts (Maybe muay thai)?

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I hear a lot of stuff about how ninjutsu sucks and how it is totally impractical, because the bujinkan don't believe in sparring. About how it is NO good in self def, about how it's just a total scam, etc... There are also people who say no it works really good, u just gotta get the right teacher and it's deadly. And those who say, well, US special ops and a lot of cops practice it, so it must be good, at least when u've got the jump on someone. I also hear a lot of muay thai guys mouthing off about how they can kick the crap out of long time practitioners, and ex practitioners talking about how fighters from other arts with little/no experience kicked the crap outta them when they had a huge amount of experience. So, whats the verdict on ninjutsu/taijutsu?

Answer 1

If u had a katana maybe..

Answer 2

Just like every other martial art out there, many people teach it without fully understanding the art. They do a year or two at training and then think they are good enough to teach. It is only natural that there techniques will be floored.

As Ninjitsu has traditionally been a secret art it is unlikely that masters have passed on their best skills to students who have not trained for many years.

Finding a good teacher is the key to learning an effective martial art regardless of it's style or origin. The problem is good teachers are hard to find and then it takes many years of dedicated study to get the hidden secrets of what the master knows.

You have to be realistic, you don't expect a master to teach you the good stuff if you have trained for a few months once or twice a week, it just isn't going to happen.

A word about Muay Thai, Muay Thai is taught as a professional sport, it is often taught in training camps where students train 6-8 hours every day. They are more or less professional athletes or at least train as professional fighters. It is little wonder that they dominate fights when they are up against people who train a few hours a week. It's on a different level to most amateur training.

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Is ninjutsu effective in a real life situation? Vs other martial arts (Maybe muay thai)?
I hear a lot of stuff about how ninjutsu sucks and how it is totally impractical, because the bujinkan don't believe in sparring. About how it is NO good in self def, about how it's just a total scam, etc... There are also people who say no it works really good, u just gotta get the right...

Answer 4

You obviously have a chip on your shoulder. If you wish to challenge someone, just do it, do not dance around the issue.

It seems very illogical that people as secretive as the feudal Japanese took a secret training system used by dishonorable warriors and shared it with outsiders from the country. The feudal Japanese didn't share with anyone let alone their darkest secrets with outsiders. Hence, I do not believe anyone is teaching true ninjitsu in America in a public capacity.
I am sure these people are teaching something but I do not believe it is ninjitsu.
It bothers me when people claim to be so in touch with their style and yet they don't really even know what they are studying.

Let me say this on sparring. It is essential to training. It is closer to a real situation than a line drill or form done in the air. But sparring is also an exercise; it is not totally like a real situation. A real situation has so many factors that are not covered by sparring. What I am getting at is this, you can never practice being a victim but a bad guy has lots of practice at being a criminal. Be prepared for the worse in a real situation.

Answer 5

It's worthless. Think about this, if you never drive a car, but you does practice on video game. Do that mean you can really drive a car?

That's why sparring is SO important. Many gyms doesn't spar because they're afaird that if they do, others will know their styles are ineffective. So they have to hide that fact.

bujinkan isn't exactly a scam but it's not effective either. No polices and military doesn't learn it. They mostly learn some basic jiu jitsu, judo, and a bit karate or Muay Thai. To be safe, they basically learn CQC (Close Quarter Combat) or commonly known as Krav maga.

Muay Thai guys may seems pretty aggorant, but trust me if they say they can kick someone ***, they CAN 95% of the time. Next time ask them if they think they can beat brazil jiu jitsu, wrestler, or kyokushin karate I promise most of them wouldn't talk about how easy it would be. That's because they actually spar and they know what they're capable of.

So basically I believe ninjutsu/taijutsu are a dead style like as many other styles. So if you want to learn it because you want to know what it's like or you're curious then go ahead. However don't expect it to save your butt.

Answer 6

well it works the same way i explained this to my friend the other day. see if a ninja were great. we would get in kill get out. thats what ninjitsu is. So the Ninja would strike at night well the "Muay Thai" fighter on here was asleep. And everyones pretty weak in their sleep or rather vulnerable, not weak i guess. Theres liek probably 5 if that real Ninjas left. And know one knows them because ninjas all though are not invisible there smart but try and keep a low profile. in fact they do. if you ever meet one tell me. that would be nice. But say if a ninja walked up and tried fighitng a thai fighter his skills would have to be pretty advanced. But if it wasn't are really good fighter than they would send two ninjas. and your dead. The point is ninjitsu wasn't just a martial art it was a way of life and set of skills in which you could use espionage. now modern day ninjitsu is **** and like a karate, Kung-Fu fused art. And the schools usually don't teach the skills needed to kill. which is how a ninja survives it kills everyone and gets away. and than if theres any wordo f the ninja he would have to kill them to. Secrecy is key. where as the thai fighters on here are all talk and spread there all talk no walk philosophy. bu if you ever do see a ninja block left you might jsut catch the shuriken in your arm before in goes into your eye. the key is respect what you don't understand don't talk it down. BEcause somethign that might look goofy to you might not be so goofy when your dieing from being poisoned have a poorly constructed sword in your back a pair of katar stuck in your back. just some stuff to think on if you ever meet some one and tehy say they know ninjitsu, you start talking down to them, and than have to watch you back for the rest of your life, because you never know.

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Answer 9

1st I would like 2 say that u hav got a big mouth & uttering rubbish. What qualification hav u 2 judge on others. I practice martial arts when a teenager. All I can say is every art has its power point. So don't mess around 'cos u might be trash up 1 day when u meet D right guy.

Answer 10

I'm not sure what folks here think of as "sparring," but, having trained in the Bujinkan, I can tell you we did not practice by "theory." Pairs and groups would practice techniques, and these techniques were not done halfway. Every punch thrown is meant to break the opponent. (I know this because my partner failed to block a punch of mine once and it connected quite well--I was also on the receiving end of the hardest head knock in my life in training!) The idea that the Bujinkan doesn't believe in "sparring," comes from the fact that there are no formal "forms" for show, and mere "hits" do not count. You don't pass the 5th kyu test unless you immobilize Sensei in two kinds of wrist locks. If he can move, you fail. I witnessed a black belt test wherein the student passed but came out of it with a broken nose and concussion. There is no halfway sport training in the Bujinkan. You train for real life, not competition.

And you're right about law enforcement using Bujinkan techniques. I know of several instructors who have done law enforcement training. They usually do not mouth off, but simply train for real life combat situations. In my experience, the only training that prepares you for real life combat is combat itself. Everything else, including bootcamp, is practice. I don't advocate one martial art over another; I personally have been too injured to participate for a long time, but the one thing I will never lose from Bujinkan is the fire of full commitment when battle is inevitable. The real reason people lose fights is because they do not commit to the zero sum. Luck rules most fights, all else being equal, but a hesitant fighter will be trampled upon.

Answer 11

From what I have been told, Ninjutsu is a made-up martial arts form derived from various martial arts and the founders vivid imagination. However, people are people, it is not the art form that matters but the practitioner and his level of knowledge that makes the difference. In any city you are likely to find instructors who have mail-order degrees from the back of a magazine claiming to be masters in just about any martial arts form.