We have a lovely GSD ***** who's 5 years old and has never had a litter. I would very much like to breed her just once, and have the time and space to care for a litter of puppies. However, I don't want to take her to a professional stud because I don't like the sharply angulated hind leg which breeders favour. How do I find a good-tempered male GSD with papers in the London area?
I have made up my mind to do this, so please don't bother posting replies tellingme what an awful person I am for adding to the animal population. Why is it acceptable for breeders to do this and not me? Breeders have no more idea than anyone as to where their puppies will end up five years after they were sold. I would vet all homes thoroughly and would not allow the puppies to go unless I was satisfied that they wouldn't end up in a shelter. My dog is a rescue dog, with papers from a very reputable breeder, which rather stymies the argument that only breeders should produce litters.
2006-09-13 22:33:12 · 12 answers · asked by Anonymous in Pets ➔ Dogs
For one thing reputable breeders have there dogs tested to be sure they are of breeding quality. "Lovely" does not mean breeding quality, nor does "papers" Second, you want to breed a middle aged dog, she is too old. Then there is the whole too many dog, not enough homes thing. Why add to that?
2006-09-13 23:33:37 · answer #1 · answered by Stick to Pet Rocks 7 · 5⤊ 1⤋
Do a search for breeders in the London area. Look at the pedigree of your girl and see if she is from show lines, Czech lines, Slovak lines, East German lines, West German lines, ect. Not all breeders favor angulation. I love a very well put together American show line Shepherd. There really is nothing wrong with angulation in this breed. The reason that they are built this way, is so that the shoulder layback and rear angulation make them fluid movers in the show ring. I would try to breed her to a boy that has a nice pedigree you like and his structure and temperment is something that you like. When you breed 2 dogs together you are wanting to breed them to improve the breed. My contract states that the dog is supposed to come back to me or the buyer needs to notify me before the dog is leased out, sold, or euthanized. It is also in my contract that I can sue someone if the dog is not taken care of. This is a link to the KC breed standard and it has contacts on it towards the bottom of the page
http://www.the-kennel-club.org.uk/home.htm
Good Luck! Also, a 5 year old is not too old to breed. Oh, most Shepherds in the ring in England come from West German Show lines. You might be seeing the roach back of those dogs making it appear as the dog is more angulated.
2006-09-13 23:51:38 · answer #2 · answered by bear 2 zealand © 6 · 1⤊ 3⤋
Personally I could care less if you breed.. But your girl is to old to be having a first litter. Most breeders are retiring them at this age!
If you don't care about your dog, go ahead, but first off she may not have any pups due to her age (less eggs).. and there is a host of other problems she can have when whelping..
Why did you wait so long to breed her?.. Egads I should of read further.. she is a RESCUE????? this is what we call BYB's.. Get a rescue and breed it with no background info on it's parents..
Have you had her hips tested? Her eyes? OFA? CERF?
Yep, this ticks me off because she is a rescue.. how do you know she hasn't already beed bred 10 times?
You come in asking a ? and jump on people before they have a chance to answer. So do't tell me what I can or cannot say.. I really feel horrible for this dog!
2006-09-13 22:42:22 · answer #3 · answered by Mommadog 6 · 6⤊ 2⤋
I would look for a stud in Germany and then do an AI (if I were looking to breed a GSD), they are much more moderate.
5 years is pretty old to be breeding a GSD for the first time. *I* wouldn't risk it, were she mine, but to each his own. Nothing wrong with breeding a litter (as long as hips are xrayed, as well as heart, eyes, hearing rated), but are you ready to possibly lose your *****? She is pretty old for her first.
2006-09-14 05:14:17 · answer #4 · answered by whpptwmn 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Why do you want to breed? What's the purpose? You won't make any money. Your dog does NOT need to 'have one litter' for her well-being (in fact it's exactly the opposite). No one -needs- to see the miracle of birth (buy a video). Your dog will NOT produce little clones of herself. Your 'rescue' dog is clearly not a good representative of the breed (conformation-wise) as your dog would be in the show ring if she were. So why breed? Just because? That's not a good reason to breed. Frankly, I'm wondering how your dog is a 'rescue' dog if she's not spayed and you have papers---NO rescue adopts dogs out without spaying or neutering them first. People like you are the reason why they do it.
And as someone else already mentioned, 5 years old is WAY too old for a dog to have their first litter. Your dog is approaching her senior years. Having her have puppies at this age would be like having a menopausal virgin have a child.
Are you prepared for the expenses you'll incur for your pregnant dog? Are you prepared for her to possibly DIE because of complications from having puppies at such an age? Are you prepared to hand-feed those puppies every 2 hours until they're 6 weeks old? Wipe their rumps to make them urinate/defecate? Are you prepared to make the chances of your female dog contracting cancers of her reproductive organs drastically increase? --reproductive cancers rely on estrogen (hormones) to develop and the rush of estrogen common in pregnacy stays in the body.
Has your dog been vet-checked? Has she had blood tests to determine if she is a carrier of vWD, DM, Bloat, Heart Disease, Hip and Elbow Displaysia, ect.? Has she had the certification from a vet stating her hips/elbows/eyes/ect. are clear and OK? Is she free of parasites or other STDs which can be transmitted to a stud and puppies?
If you can't answer any of those with 'yes', then you shouldn't be breeding.
Reputable and responsible breeders breed dogs to better and preserve a certain breed. Their goal is to eliminate hereditary defects and produce healthy, conformationally sound puppies. Showing proves the success of their breeding program and their dogs' general adherence to the standard (which is based on form following function and a dog being put together or looking a certain way as to better allow it to perform its 'job'). Responsible breeders do the necessary medical testing to ensure they're ONLY breeding animals of superior quality and health. They have a waiting list for their puppies (show or otherwise). They have a health guarantee on their puppies. They agree to take back any puppy they sell. They screen potential homes and only allow responsible people to purchase their puppies. They spay/neuter pet quality animals or require those people adopting them to sign a contract stating they will do it when the dog is old enough. Many do rescue work. They do not contribute to the overpopulation because their well-bred animals aren't the ones winding up in shelters---poor quality generally unhealthy 'purebred' dogs bred by ignorant and uneducated people (who wanted some money, wanted to see the miracle of birth, felt their dog needed to have puppies just once, wanted a puppy to continue their dogs' line, and so on) are the ones suffering because people don't do the responsible thing and spay and neuter their pet-only animals.
2006-09-13 23:09:27 · answer #5 · answered by strayd0g 3 · 4⤊ 2⤋
you have 3 choices - 1) swallow your dislike for the currently favored show type 2) look for a stud in the preformance venues (shuszhound, agility,obedience, herding) who need to have a sound dog to preform & so have less angulation 3) buttonhole another pet owner possibly with no health testing & pray you dont get 10 displastic puppies& 10 unhappy puppy buyers comming back on you.
PS YOU did x-ray hips, elbows,plus eye exam? If so I would say go for option 2, if not dont breed till you do
2006-09-13 22:47:16 · answer #6 · answered by ragapple 7 · 2⤊ 3⤋
Finally!There's someone else out there worried about the pups health and welfare and not just the money.GOOD FOR YOU!
Have your dogs hips been checked?If not get it done.
Put ads in every paper you can think of and inquire at your vets office.He/She may have another gsd patient who would be suitable.
2006-09-14 00:18:58 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋
Dog Parks. Get out meet people. If you're not picky about breed, just take any dog (that a pregnancy won't result in harming her of course) that she takes a fancy to. Sounds like you're after pups to love, that is cool. If you were in the New York area, I'd offer my pittie. He's about as ferocious as a two day old kitten.
By the way, Is she long-haired or short-haired? A friend of mine bred a Long-hair with a police short hair, and came out with gorgeous pups that had the look of a police dog, but the temperament of the lovable long-hair.
2006-09-13 22:40:18 · answer #8 · answered by pittiesrock 2 · 1⤊ 5⤋
Let's get this straight...you have a PAST middle-aged *PET* & you're irresponsible & IGNORANT enough to want to breed to ANOTHER POS *PET* dog?? ON PURPOSE???? Because YOU "dun't wike" CORRECT CONFORMATION*???
Becuase YOU think YOU know better than the REST of the WORLD ???
Folks like YOU are a BIG part of the reason there are so many JUNK-DOGS being KILLED every day!
2006-09-14 00:40:22 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 2⤋
I have a beautiful German Shepherd male dog. The only problem being I live in Australia and I also desex him. Maybe advertise in the paper for a male German Shepherd. There are just so loyal I love my dog.
2006-09-13 22:46:03 · answer #10 · answered by MJane21 5 · 1⤊ 4⤋